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    Posted: 30 Jul 06 at 09:53

Wel I've had this in the country since November 2005 but not really had much of a chance to get it road worthy as I've been working on the Crewcab (now sold). Fingers crossed I can get somewheer with it now and start driving it around... espeically offroad!


When I first saw pictures of it, it didn't look too good. The windscreen was smashed, the 2.1 DJ was long gone, the drivers door has been folded back onto the bodywork , the propshaft was dead and the the front diff felt horrible. When I removed the front cover plate, you can see that the main pinion bearing has failed and from there on it's just been a giant mincing machine!






















The history on the van is a bit sketchy but it seems to have lived most of its life in a Lime Quarry in Germany. It was ordered from VW with Vinyl undercoating which I had never heard of until I looked at the options list for the van. As a result the underneath is totally solid


More details to come as I progress.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 06 at 10:21
You gonna have it ready for CJ's Devon outing then??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 06 at 10:23

Hahaha... no

 

A few more bits of info.

The rear window was perspex (!),

The engine was/is a DG from a 2WD and had been fitted with the 2WD engine bar putting the rear UJ of the propshaft at a horrible angle... probably why it had failed!

The wheels you can see it on are Mercedes 15inch steels at the back and Audi 16 inch steels up front on 185/50/16's!!

When I removed the front bash plate, I dropped it on the floor to remove all the lime which was sitting insdie it and then weighed it.. 30KG of Lime!

The Lime had embedded itself into the paint and nothing seemed to shift it. We tried washing, scrubbing with brillo pads and scrubbing brushes, even T-cut wouldn't move it. Eventually we grabbed some Mr.Muscle and Cillit Bang  and that shifted it! Paintwork now looks rather nice.

All the rear brake lines were history along with the front discs and all 4 flexi's. Thankfully the rear driveshafts and CV joints are ok as are the rear arms. These are very expensive to replace as they're 16 only parts!

I phoned up VW UK before heading over to Germany to pick up the van with the Chassis number trying to get confirmation that it was really a 16 and got back some wonderful results. VW sent me a series of emails with the whole options list

It comes with heated drivers seat (plastic, not cloth), Electric mirrors, Front and Rear diff locks, Engine access panel lock, Vinyl Undercoating, dip rear view mirror, Rear wiper, Rear heated screen, 16 inch wheels option (basically this is a very small amount of writing to say what differences are made on the van to make it a 16) and lots more...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 06 at 10:27
If you tried really hard you could , you know?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jul 06 at 10:28

Kev... er no.

Just too much to do and work takes up my time. Have to get it registered once its MOT'd too and I think I'll have to go down to the DVLA office to do that.

I'll have it on the road hopefully in the next month....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 06 at 17:53

Hi Michael,

Saw this one ebay last year...have seen a lot of 16inches in bad shape but this one looked horrible on the pics but i have to say you made a fine 16inch of it again. Offcourse lots of work still to be done but its worth it on rare beast like the 16inch.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Aug 06 at 18:41

Thanks mate,

There's still a way to go as you say but I can't wait to take it off roading and see how it compares with a stock Syncro 14

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Aug 06 at 18:19




Just needing an MOT now

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Aug 06 at 19:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 06 at 09:59
Nice to hear its up and running Mike,good luck with the MOT
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 06 at 18:44

Update:

Now MOT'd and had it at Van Fest!

Just to register it now and get the TDi in

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 06 at 09:19
I thought you didn't like Diesels any more. I thought you were a petrol man. Whats wrong with Flat 4s, Flat 6s, V8s. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 06 at 10:13
to be fair, that has scrubbed up a treat. Nice 1 mike.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Sep 06 at 19:34

Dave, I can't get away from the way it drove offroad. Having all that torque from tickover made it feel like you could drive it up walls!

I was fairly unimpressed with how much it vibrated through the body (my fault) and the gearing (also my fault) but these will be addressed when it goes into the 16.

The V8 is going in the Sika so I'm still a petrol nut  and I'll probably be buying gearboxes in bulk from CJ to keep the thing going .

Nick, cheers mate. I spent some time cleaning it up and done a small amount of bodywork but I'm not a painter so will have the whole thing re done at some point when it gets the camper conversion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 06 at 15:32

Mike, it was good to see you and the van at Vanfest. Looking forward to following the vehicle's progress.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Sep 06 at 17:58

Kombi57, it was nice meeting you too mate... always good to put a face to a name

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 06 at 18:44

Update:


The TDi is bolted up to the gearbox with South African bellhousing etc and in position.


Depsite everyone saying you have to lift the lid for this conversion on an Audi 5 cylinder engine, it fits under the stock lid!! This is gonna save me a huge amount of bodywork raising the bed and then trying to seal it properly again.


The TDi has a much lower inlet manifold that the petrol engines so I can only presume that that is the main thing which gets in the way of the engine lid on 5 cyl petrol engine conversions. Add to that that the syncro engine and gearbox already sit 20mm lower that the 2WD and the clearance is just enough!


I have cut out some of the rear top cross member to clear the timing belt cover but will be able to put back the section at the very top which seals up against the lid. I'll also weld some metal in further into the cross member to put the strenth back in where I've cut metal out.


I now have to weld in strengthening plates to the chassis rails and then add captive M12 nuts.


Hopefully it'll be nice again next weekend so I can get on with the welding.









Here are some pics of the South African specific parts needed for the 5 cylinder conversion.





















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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 06 at 21:27
Hi Mike, great to see the van after hearing about it last weekend. All seems to be going nicely, especially like the rubber wheel arch extensions. Cheers, Paul.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 17:43
Well the work continues.

Today I managed to weld in the chassis strengthening plates with captive nuts (M12x1.25) and bolt the whole lot up into position, please excuse the sockets I'm using as spacers until I have some makde up in aluminium!

Now I'm looking at the Charge Cooler placement and the main air inlet to the engine.

When I had the charge cooler in the Doka, I had it fairly tightly squeezed into the N/S/R corner. The pipes were sent through very tight angles and to be honest it was thrown in in a hurry. This time I'm going to take my time and have everything comfortable!

You can see where I plan to sit the charge cooler, it'll eventually be rubber mounted to the body. Mocking up with cardboard tube I have worked out the lengths, angles etc which I need so I can go out and buy everything without guessing.

I've decided to mount the air flow meter inside the van rather than in the engine bay and run the main inlet pipe up the inside of the rear wall and then out through to the rear vent. I'll also mount the air filter box inside. This way I know no water is going to get to the airflow meter or air filter without getting to the top of the air vent first! As the van will have a cupboard at the back, all of this will be hidden away.

Now to buy lots of ally tubing and rubber/silicone tube angles

























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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Nov 06 at 18:16
Mmmmm...nice engine cradle.

Will be good to see it when I come down for the exhaust and mounting kit.

Will give me a chance to pick your brains and check out the mountings on the 16".
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