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    Posted: 01 Jan 09 at 22:22
hi all hope you all had good new year .

going to have a go at sparying van myself , have done bit of spraying in the past but all been furniture never on cars .

what is the easist paint to learn with and whats going to give me the best results for first timer ???

not to fussed about the health issues etc LOL

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you'll be interested if you breathe in 2 pack!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isocyanate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organophosphates
They should be enough to put you off painting with 2K without the right equipment.
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shall get correct breathing stuff am presuming that you can hire them .

which is the easist to spary and can both be done outside under big gazebo ??

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Celle will be easier, it will have to be polished to death, 2K will give better results and carry on shining but is more expensive.

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cheers

every where i have been looking 2pack is half the price of cellouse hence reson leading more towards 2 pack .


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You say 2 pac is half the price? and are you including the hardner etc, My Dads business is car paints etc and celly is much cheaper and easier to spray, and 2 pac under a gazebo will probably turn out shat as it needs to be baked on really
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i just did quick hunt on flebay and found theres quite a lot of 2pack including hardener and thinners thats 5L paint and all the correct thiners etc for around £70 as to the cellousle i have looked at is coming in at 130ish for 5L

maybe am looking in wrong place or someone can point me in right direction for cheap cellious

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if spraying near neigbours (if they are like mine )and they report to local health authority you could be in trouble.... new regulations require both types of paint to be applied only in full filtered spray booths.
Main problem you will have is dust settling on wet paint (means hours of cutting & buffing if done without a profesional buffer)
with both these paints your main worry will be what paint is on the van at moment, if it has synthetic based paint on you will need to apply a bar coat before spraying or both will react.
If spaying 2 pac outside you will need to use a fast activater with the paint as normal activater is ment for use in a heated booth or low bake spray oven.
celleluse requires more coats to biuld up the finish and allow for cutting and buffing, i will be supprised if you can still get celleluse mixed to a paint code as most suppliers i use dont stock at all now. even 2 pac metalics is hard to get as most stock only water based base coat colours now.
I dont personally know of anyone who hires breathing apparatus for paint spraying as stated its a specialist health and safety equipment normally only used in spray booths, can be bought from proffesional paint suppliers but you need a full air fed spray mask not just a dust mask
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wish i could get 2k for that price just paid over £250 for 2ltr paint activater and thiners to paint sons mini thats on trade account but then again noy out of date shelf stock paint from flee bay
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If not for me dads business my t3 hightop would never have been painted, he let me have all the paint for nothing and as I went metalic and had it done inside and out it would have cost over a grand in materials, and I found a sprayer to do it all for £800 Bargain, But beware of ebay paint a lot of it is unsprayable
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this was the stuff i was looking at

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Paint-Cellulose-FORD-RADIANT-RED-SPECIAL-OFFER_W0QQitemZ390015356493QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint?hash=item390015356493&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318



load a crap or worth the gamble LOL seams to have good feedback etc
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That link you put up is for celly, Also if your going to spray solvent based outside if its too cold the paint will look dull and misty and if its too hot it will dry to quick and go dusty,
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If there special weekend price does expire its worth knowing that 5 litres of thinners is only £10ish and the paint they quote about £40-50ish

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well everyones saying go for celly so thats the stuff am going for now i hunted some down thats half decent price .

cant i just put gazebo up and spray celly then or will it turn out crap , not worried about buffing it up can do that shall keep me fit LOL
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You can without prying eyes watching, but wait until about april when the temp is better
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where in notts do you live ? i deal with a supplier at Clay Cross PCS 01246 205999 they sell good paint at reasonable price
like others have said spraying outside is a real pain finish will be hard to anywhere near good even for a good sprayer,
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jct 30 of the m1 middle of the sticks Cry

neigbours wont mind got big 6ft fence wither side and there cool with everything , old neigbours was swines but these are alright so thats not a problem .

just need to get it sprayerd up asap , all prep work is done and looking bit of a mess Cry
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get a gazebo with sides and use a heater and get it warmish before you start and again when you finished

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got a couple of those oil heaters there probaly best of am presuming as no flame etc

oh well it cant look any worse than what it does now so shall give it a go .

am taking it thats plenty of paint to do a van the link i posted up ??
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