JX alternative turbo

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Hello all,I have a van here that's been mothballed for a few years and a good JX 1.6 TD engine to go in it.
Problem is there's one thing missing-the original turbo.
Should be a KKK part number 068 145 701 QX if anyone has one.
I do have a Garrett turbo from a 1990 Audi 80 1.6TD.
Will this fit and if so how would I need to modify it?
I have the JX manifolds and also the Audi ones.
All the best,
Mike.

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WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: JX alternative turbo Posted: 06 Apr 12 at 08:50
	Hello all, I have a van here that's been mothballed for a few years and a good JX 1.6 TD engine to go in it. Problem is there's one thing missing-the original turbo. Should be a KKK part number 068 145 701 QX if anyone has one. I do have a Garrett turbo from a 1990 Audi 80 1.6TD. Will this fit and if so how would I need to modify it? I have the JX manifolds and also the Audi ones. All the best, Mike.

VW Nerd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 20 Jan 08 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 831	Post Options Post Reply Quote VW Nerd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 12 at 15:05
	Does the Audi turbo have the same 4 bolt fitting pattern as the JX exhaust or does the turbo have a 3 bolt pattern?
	Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van

WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 12 at 16:42
	Turbo will bolt straight on. 4 bolts.

VW Nerd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 20 Jan 08 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 831	Post Options Post Reply Quote VW Nerd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 12 at 19:06
	Just check the position of the oil feed/return. Reindex if necessary and away you go.
	Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van

WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 12 at 10:31
	Thanks for the info. By re-index do you mean dismantle the turbo and reset it so it's level say with the floor and not likely to feed the engine its own oil? Also when it was fitted to the Audi engine there was a water pipe that connected to the engine block to a nozzle in one of the 3 "caps"and another oil pipe. What do I do with these? All the best, Mike.

VW Nerd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 20 Jan 08 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 831	Post Options Post Reply Quote VW Nerd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 12 at 11:41
	You dont need to attach the water pipes. just leave them off. Reindex the turbo so that the oil return is at the bottom of the turbo. You can check this by putting the turbo on to the exhaust manifold which I guess is still fitted to the engine.
	Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van

WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 12 at 12:40
	OK thanks again. I'll have a look and make sure it all lines up. I suppose a JX oil feed pipe will go straight to it? And would the turbo not catch fire without water? Mike.

VW Nerd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 20 Jan 08 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 831	Post Options Post Reply Quote VW Nerd Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 12 at 19:51
	No turbo won't catch on fire. It will b fine without water. You can plumb into water if you want 2 and have the fittings for the turbo.
	Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van

WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 12 at 15:13
	One more thing. The Audi 80 setup had an oil feed pipe and another running alongside it that was disconnected. What is this for? Something to do with the intercooler maybe? And do I block it off when using on the JX? Flying blind at the mo with limited know-how and awaiting a "Bentley" manual. Thanks again, Mike.

Syncropaddy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 27 May 10 Location: Gorey Ireland Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Syncropaddy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 12 at 15:51
	If its a water cooled turbo it will be worth while taking the pump and injectors off the Audi engine as its the 80bhp unit - if you still have access to it.
	syncropaddy I blame Tesco for the obesity issues we have in Ireland. I will be proved right. 1991 LHD Syncro Multivan TD 1993 RHD Syncro Van TD ..... the last RHD made

WIGANBARGEE Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 05 Apr 12 Location: WIGAN Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote WIGANBARGEE Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 12 at 16:12
	Yes I have both the JX which is almost ready to drop in, and when this one dies I have the old Audi lump to fall back on. My original plan was to send the van to a specialist and have them put a recon JX in. Trouble was my van had a CS non-turbo waste of time in it so I thought hmm what do I do now. Dust off the old socket set! Anyway I bought a decent used JX but a few bits lets say had been used to do an AAZ conversion. And these bits took a bit of tracking down(eBay Germany etc). And they started adding up(lots of £20s £30s and £40s. So when I saw the Audi engine I thought hmm might as well buy this even if I use a few bits and keep it as a spare. Must say though glad it happened like this as it's proving to be quite enjoyable especially as it's all coming together. Van is a 1987 Syncro crewcab by the way, Mike.

pothole dodger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 11 Feb 12 Location: Derbyshire Status: Offline Points: 98	Post Options Post Reply Quote pothole dodger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 12 at 16:58
	I`ve got one of them audi 80 engines here with pump if any parts are any good to anyone? Is the pump as it looks the same as a VW GTD?

Syncropaddy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 27 May 10 Location: Gorey Ireland Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote Syncropaddy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 12 at 18:37
	Do you have the injectors?
	syncropaddy I blame Tesco for the obesity issues we have in Ireland. I will be proved right. 1991 LHD Syncro Multivan TD 1993 RHD Syncro Van TD ..... the last RHD made

James Golding Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 13 May 20 Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote James Golding Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Dec 20 at 23:26
	I am too curious about this. After my JX engine died I replaced it with an AAZ engine but used all the ancillaries and manifolds from the JX engine when fitting it. The JX turbo is on its way out and I need to replace it. I find this feed interesting as I would believe that a Audi 80 turbo (1Z) has the same 4 bolt pattern as the JX exhaust manifold and therefore should be a easy fit, does this turbo offer any benefits to just replacing with another JX turbo? I am assuming it would as it designed for a larger capacity engine. Will my JX oil feed connect straight to an Audi 80 turbo? Or will I need to manufacture my own oil feed and drain pipes? Is this turbo conversion swap worth doing as the turbo needs replacing anyway? Regards, James

dave.arthur Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Not Quite Newbie Joined: 10 Sep 19 Location: NS, Canada Status: Offline Points: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote dave.arthur Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 22 at 13:01
	Since we are on the topic of turbos... I have a stock JX in a T3/T3 with a K14 turbo. Is there an adapter available that would allow me to mount a VW VNT15 on the JX manifold? It would adapt the four bolt trapezoidal pattern to the triangular three bolt pattern.

dave.arthur Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Not Quite Newbie Joined: 10 Sep 19 Location: NS, Canada Status: Offline Points: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote dave.arthur Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Aug 23 at 11:25
	Just to close this thread... I was able to find an adapter that would fit a T15 turbo or VNT to a JX manifold with the trapezoidal mount. Tim Shettle was able to provide me with the adapters. They worked without issue, quality kit! Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464