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    Posted: 20 Aug 11 at 17:57
There have been more than 2000 views of this topic in the ‘Westy Useful Threads’, it is obviously a common problem. As there are only 7000 odd views on the Roll Call it looks like at least 1 in 4 have this problem.
When I bought my van the sensor didn’t work. I repaired it by replacing the reed switches and resistors, resealed it and it worked all over the Autumn and Winter and failed on my summer holidays!
Full of moisture and rust. I repaired it again, this time like holydiver, I replaced the tube as well as the switches. Once again it worked all over the Autumn and Winter and failed on my summer holidays! This time I took it out as soon as it failed. It was full of water and I realised what is the cause of this problem.
Untypically for Westfalia, I believe it is down to a design fault. When the tank is filled to everflowing, the overflow is 10cm or so above the top of the tank leaving a head of water to slightly pressurise the tank. The sensor is secured to the tank lid by three screws through a plastic flange with a fibre gasket in between. I was amazed to discover that the tank lid had warped leaving a gap of almost a millimetre between the mounting holes.



 No way would a thin fibre gasket fill this gap. Furthermore, the flange face has the maker’s name moulded onto it so there is even less sealing area.
During the winter, most of the time my water tank is empty, come my holidays, the tank is full to the brim. There is water splash or condensation, and temperature changes draw water through the gap between the flange and the warped cap where it runs down into the sensor tube. Sensor fails!
My solution is to follow holydiver’s excellent tutorial BUT, when drilling out the hole in the flange to 10mm, drill right through. When you insert the tube do not leave it flush with the flange but push through a further 10mm or so.



Open up the hole in the lid to 10 mm. Whilst you are at it open up the mounting holes to M4 so you can put some decent size screws in there. Now, when you assemble it to the lid, the end of the tube goes through the lid into fresh air and cannot get water drawn in. Whilst I was at it I also used a 8mm ‘top hat’ grommet to try to improve the cable entry to the sensor.

Finished top view.




So thats it, just need some nice weather to get away and fully test it.

(By the way you can get 10mm PVC tube from B&Q)



Edited by Pete Westy - 22 Aug 11 at 11:21
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Trevor and Cheri at http://www.theskylightguy.com/ have taken over the manufactury of Delta Six parts for the Westys, and have just told me that the water level senders have passed QA and are available for sale.  They're in Canada.  I imagine the Bus Depot in US will also have them - don't know whether they have a distributor in UK.  I see they're not on the website yet, but I'm sure you can get details from info (at) skylightguy.com.

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I've almost got all the parts now to make 10x sonsor so plan to make these in the new year if anyone is interested?
 
 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gandalf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 11 at 10:49
Originally posted by Holydiver Holydiver wrote:

I've almost got all the parts now to make 10x sonsor so plan to make these in the new year if anyone is interested?
 
 

Straight swap? if so I'm interested.
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Hi All
I know it's been a long time coming but I'm almost there and hoping to have some sensor for sell soon, will post as soon as ready
 
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If you build them, they will come ...

I'll definitely have one off you once they're ready !
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I'm almost there just got to source another the float because the one I was going to use the company stopped selling them, so got some parts coming to make my own! 
 
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hi there

I am still interested if you get these up and running.  I have my float off the current sensor if that helps.

Maybe this will be an end to estimating number of kettles used/tank capacity Smile
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Hi

Yes I'm almost there, the original one used a 10mm tube but I could only get this in clear PVC, having made one using the clear I have decided I don't like the look of it, so have now order some 12mm grey tube, plus I making my own floats now.
 
If you're interested I'm happy to sell you the first one at cost but I would need your float as the one's I'm making are for 12mm tube.
PM if you're interested.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pete Westy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jan 12 at 09:58
I bought 10mm white tube at B&Q which I used for mine.
Just happened to notice that my local store had some in stock last week.
B&Q
Its in the place where they have decorative metal tubing and section. I think the complete display is probably provided by another company.
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I'm definitely still interested in having one of these too ..
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First one despatched today and more to make. Smile
As soon as I have more ready I will post in for section & ebay, going to be around £85 incl P&P

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Sensor installed and working beautifully.  Really nice job.  Thanks Gary.
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Anyone interested in buying one can email or PM
or keep a look out in the for sale section or ebay
 
 


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