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    Posted: 04 Jun 19 at 12:00
I think you would have to go to a remapper.  Chose one with good feedback though.
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Hi,

I bought a T5 with the 102 PS engine a year ago now.  The previous owner told me that it had been remapped, but it still feels pretty weedy.  Does anyone know how I can understand what it's running at / remap it again for better torque and power?

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about remapping I had my van done by prescions code works what a difference to my 84 ps was that impressed brought the equipment I brought because friends kept
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Originally posted by VW master-tech VW master-tech wrote:

which to a certain affect is true the dealer cannot tell but the factory can tell if it has been changed from original factory settings VW are very protective about what goes into there ECUs

He he he, I'm reading this in the future post TDI scandal.
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Mine is unmapped and on a flatish run if you really pay attention to using the lightest throttle possible you can get good figures on a five pot.  On a crack of dawn run from Newquay to Weymouth I once had mine showing 44 MPG on the dash.  I was deliberately driving as frugally as I could to see what it could do.  I have checked this against tank to tank and the dash display is always about 10% optimistic so it must have been around 40mpg.  

If I drive mine without thinking it's around 30-32 mpg and if I'm really in a real hurry around town loaded up with tools it can get as low as 27mpg.

If I'm towing (about a ton) against a headwind on hilly terrain (like Bodmin Moor) it can get down as low as 22mpg.

My missus drove it for a few miles for the first time the other day in South London and she had it showing 37mpg!  
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Originally posted by kernow kernow wrote:

I agree the t5 is to easy to abuse . But 45 mpg ? What engine is getting that mpg . My 2.5 is roughly getting 32mpg whatever I do with it . Remapped to 200

45mpg from a 1.9 maybe but not a 5 pot...32mpg I get from mine which was running 287/580nm until..I cracked the head and lost an intermediate gear on the engine geartrain for the camshaft.
Agree with more loading on the drive train but it's how it's driven, yes most maps on the 5 pot max the torque at 2300-2700rpm which is just above the sweet spot of 2000rpm @70mph in top.
My gearbox gave up last year at 220k and had the first motion shaft bearing problem which is common on these gearboxs anyway but I also wore of the case hardening on the gearing especially sixth...possibly due to torque rather than bad driving. It could be the fact that in any gear my van would pull far quicker than in standard form and I've onlyhad to replace one drive shaft, they appear to go on non mapped vehicles as well.

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I agree the t5 is to easy to abuse . But 45 mpg ? What engine is getting that mpg . My 2.5 is roughly getting 32mpg whatever I do with it . Remapped to 200
my bigest fear is that when I die the missus will sell my toys for what I said I paid for them
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I have personally undertaken about 150 Remap's on my own and customers cars and apart from the crazy minority most Remap's are for better drivability and increased mpg my T5 173 is running 210 bhp although I rarely use it, the fact is I don't have to rev it so hard or change down the box so often, and 50mpg when driven carefully is a great bonus, on a long run even at motorway speeds I will achieve 45+ mpg
I don't think it matters about weather it is remapped or not, if you are breaking clutches and drive shafts you are probably driving it too hard
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had a map from celtic in roche on my 130 about 3 years ago very impressed with the whole thing torque power and improved mpg . they did it properly on the rolling road before and after and gave me a proper printout from the dyno .
my bigest fear is that when I die the missus will sell my toys for what I said I paid for them
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In the time honoured fashion of reviving old threads and due to the fact Im probably gonna be spending to much money fixing up my van so Im thinking may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.........................Who do folks recommend in the south west of Englandshire for remapping my 05 175?
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might treat myself later in the summer , what price does it cost 
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Your welcome to come to us also. We remapped Brickwerks van and Simon will give you the low down on our remaps. You can also try before you buy if you wish.
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for re mapping take a search of old threads , its been done to death then over again . I was the worlds greatest sceptic but here iam 3 years on with my 130 remapped to 200 and getting more mpg and no problems related to the remap .
speak to celtic like i did and they will put your mind at rest . and remember have some sypathy when you ask 200 plus hp to pull a fully loaded van , as you should if you asked your GTI to tow a large trailer .
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Originally posted by oldun oldun wrote:

My only worry is that of reliability and engine life.

There are hundreds of "companies" out there offering to remap your engine.

Due to the large number of both good and bad remappers it is impossible to find any real information as to any detrimental effect on the engine. All engines must have limits as to how much power they can reliably delivery.

Has anyone any HARD information on this matter - I'm not interested in what "someones's girlfriend told her boy friend who then told is best mate that....." Nor am I interested in what some dodgy untrained and inexperienced back room remapper has told you. I am also a little wary of what reputable remappers tell us as I am sure that we all would only pass on the good parts of the story.

I would like some real information collected by a reliable and independent sources. - any info oput there?




 You have a very good point. The problem with the tuning industry regarding remapping it's never really grown up. There should be a governing body which regulates the industry independently. It has been tried before but it didn't happen. So it is difficult to find quality information. All you can go on really is customers who have had there van's tuned and speak to them directly. Get some dyno figures and logging data and look into the information that is present. I totally understand your frustration. When we were looking for new equipment and software we got told all sorts of things from all sorts of people and most of what we were told was unfounded and incorrect. It is a mine field.
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Originally posted by oldun oldun wrote:

My only worry is that of reliability and engine life.

There are hundreds of "companies" out there offering to remap your engine.

Due to the large number of both good and bad remappers it is impossible to find any real information as to any detrimental effect on the engine. All engines must have limits as to how much power they can reliably delivery.

Has anyone any HARD information on this matter - I'm not interested in what "someones's girlfriend told her boy friend who then told is best mate that....." Nor am I interested in what some dodgy untrained and inexperienced back room remapper has told you. I am also a little wary of what reputable remappers tell us as I am sure that we all would only pass on the good parts of the story.

I would like some real information collected by a reliable and independent sources. - any info oput there?



I speak as someone who has had a remap. 

I had my 174 remapped in July 2009 (only got it in May), it was initially done for two reasons - better fuel economy and as standard I found the 174 had an annoying "lag" which was very noticeable when pulling away from road ends, the van seemed to have a flat spot just at the rev range you would naturally want to be at and this resulted in an initial lunge forward followed by a near stall situation if you didnt catch it/apply more revs - certainly not ideal and far from safe

The remap completely transformed this and it now pulls strongly and smoothly from low to high - much better

On the economy front it has definitely help MPG - I would say at least 5 MPG better as an average and up to 10 MPG on longer trips - just dont think that you can drive like Ayrton Senna and still see improvements - you won't - it needs to be driven correctly

The remap obviously increased power too and it has made the van even better to drive - overtaking ability was good before but now it is great

All this and not one failure that I would even consider was related to the remap

My conclusion - worth it

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My only worry is that of reliability and engine life.

There are hundreds of "companies" out there offering to remap your engine.

Due to the large number of both good and bad remappers it is impossible to find any real information as to any detrimental effect on the engine. All engines must have limits as to how much power they can reliably delivery.

Has anyone any HARD information on this matter - I'm not interested in what "someones's girlfriend told her boy friend who then told is best mate that....." Nor am I interested in what some dodgy untrained and inexperienced back room remapper has told you. I am also a little wary of what reputable remappers tell us as I am sure that we all would only pass on the good parts of the story.

I would like some real information collected by a reliable and independent sources. - any info oput there?


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Originally posted by WebNosis75 WebNosis75 wrote:



Might be a stupid question, but is it possible to get my T26 85bhp remapped to 104bhp?  It's the same engine and running gear as far as I'm aware, so it really shouldn't make any difference.


Pendles right it's all the same equipment. You can tune your 85 safely past 104bhp but really what your after is more useable torque. This will improve your drive and pulling power. Also driven well you should get a few more mpg.
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Originally posted by WebNosis75 WebNosis75 wrote:

Might be a stupid question, but is it possible to get my T26 85bhp remapped to 104bhp?  It's the same engine and running gear as far as I'm aware, so it really shouldn't make any difference.



From the PendlePerformance website.
T5 1.9TDi 85bhp.
"This 1.9TDI engine is a software downtuned version of the 1.9TDI 102bhp engine."
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Might be a stupid question, but is it possible to get my T26 85bhp remapped to 104bhp?  It's the same engine and running gear as far as I'm aware, so it really shouldn't make any difference.
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