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    Posted: 02 Feb 07 at 02:33

I posted this van from a show a few years ago.  I am posting it again only because I feel that it is finally done.   "DONE" of course being a relative term.   At any rate the Trans has all been attended to with 2,3,and 4 all being made taller.  I also removed the rear locking diff. in favor of the Posi (limited slip) then used the plumbing for the driveline de-coupler.  The majority of the time the van runs as a rear drive with posi.  The idea is to have a 4wd with rear bias.  Throttle on oversteer in the snow, gravel, and wet.   I need more power to produce it on dry tarmac.  TSW Hockenhiem R's,  direct fix no adaptors,  225/55r17  Pirelli Allroads(terrible tires).  Audi 200 Turbo Quattro front binders, crossdrilled and vented.  Custom swaybars/  I have the 034 motorsports injector kit installed (great kit for 7A motors).  With the chip and extras I suspect i am around 200 hp.  That might be a little high,  but I say it anyway.  Suspension is finally de-bugged.  For a syncro this is as low as you can go while maintaining good road manners over different road conditions and surfaces.   Its not as low as I would like it believe me.  At any rate. blabber blabber blabber, Any questions , let me know.  I hope you like it....God knows my wife dosen't.

 



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no, it will never be "finished."
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sshhhh!! can you hear that?
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that looks pretty sweet - how did you manage to get the 16v lump sitting so
low? That is just a normal engine cover yeah?
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Syncro, everything in the engine bay is about 2" lower.

Hence syncro's running AAZ's, GTD's and the like don't need to dick with the engine lid.

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ah, right oh, forgot about that....
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whats going on in that rear vent?

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nice 

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Tee3,  I have the early 7A motor with the factory head.  That header along with the intake manifold make for a lot of surface area to radiate heat.  I have the vent pulling air and running through the intake runners to keep things cool.

 

Yes, Baxter has it right.  Its funny about the syncro and the 2wd.  From the ground to the motor, the syncro does not have any more clearance.  The chassis is just lifted to accept the trans and drivelined.  But it make for some more space in the motor comp.

 

no, it will never be "finished."
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Schimke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Feb 07 at 02:36

That looks great Mr. Cat! So I take it you like your limited slip diff.? I'm planning on putting one in mine too.

Did you make your vent scoop? What did you make it out of? I like it.

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I like the limited slip in the dry.   Its pretty cool when you stand on it in a tight corner and will "walk" a little and straighten up you exit line rather than scrub acceleration.  Thats a pretty cool feeling. 

However,  In the wet and  snow in a 2wd configuation they are almost dangerous.   The rear end walks around like it has its own ideas.  When you break traction while throttle on,  your usually find youself in a lot of trouble.  I Used a limited slip for the "syncro setup"  rear bias throttle on oversteer.

If you know someone who has a syncro with a rear locker and a de-coupler,   ask them for a drive on a rainy day.  Use these conditions:  Rear diff locked,  driveline "de-coupled"  and take some "safe faster corners"  Be Careful. This will bind the rear end so; only perform this kind of thing "on the fly"  and only a "few times" to get the point.  Gravel roads are a better option for this test. 

Limited slips work awesome in the sand!  and Dry Tarmac/pavement.  but anything else is a drag.   Snow in a 2wd, limited slip, around corners is pretty sketchy.

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I sholdn't post when I'm loaded. 

no, it will never be "finished."
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shouldn't....

errrr...

 

 

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Am I right in saying that the engine is of Audi origin ie 5 cylinder abc block??? I want one of those lumps in my van...!!!
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Yes its an Audi engine,  the 7A.   Its a good option,  not great.  It spins well, however no low end.  If I had to do it over again I would use a 10v turbo, or even the 20v turbo. 
no, it will never be "finished."
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Hi mellow cat you have pm

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ghia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 08 at 23:13

Any updates on this van?

Do you have any more pics of the install etc?

I'd be interested to know what springs you used to lower it with?

Thanks

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