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    Posted: 01 Aug 17 at 09:51
I eventually ruled out anything to do with the light/radio wiring modification having any effect on my starting.

Seems as though my glow plugs were knackered and I didn't help matters when I tried to start the vehicle whilst still connected via the mains hook-up (apparently this is not advised Unhappy).  The timing of the problem was just coincidental.

A new set of glow plugs and a fully charged battery and I was good to go.
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Originally posted by grm2507 grm2507 wrote:

Anyway recently I did the mod to my Atlantic 1.6TD JX - connected terminals  B12 (radio and interior lights) to a fused power feed from the leisure battery.... I'm guessing (until I can do some proper tests) that there's a possible problem with the glow plug circuit.
I did mod last night (all except fitting new fuse - so left disconnected at battery for now) and found glow circuit not working afterwards :( 
My guess is I dislodged something while pulling out the fuse box (mine is not as neat as the Baxter pic). It could just coincidentally have failed because _something_ usually breaks when I look at the van.  I was too annoyed to debug so gave up and drank beer.


FYI my Altantic wiring is 'one short length of red wire from B12 to another connector block' (as per couple of other posters) which then connected up a number of wires (3 or 4 I think) so I don't think the Baxter 'wire going up door post' would have connected everything back up again. Other wires may be radio, lighter, some strange socket on dash, and vanity mirror light.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grm2507 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 16 at 10:15
Sorry to jump in on such an old post but I've been a bit behind the times in getting this mod done.

Anyway recently I did the mod to my Atlantic 1.6TD JX - connected terminals B11 (cigarette lighter) and B12 (radio and interior lights) to a fused power feed from the leisure battery.  All works fine......I thought.

However, during a recent trip abroad I had lots of problems starting the vehicle after leaving it for a couple of nights - turned over and over, clouds of smoke and eventually started (luckily).  Once it had been running and is warm it runs and starts fine.  I'm guessing (until I can do some proper tests) that there's a possible problem with the glow plug circuit.

After a minor fix to the glow plug feed connection whilst I was away (it was pretty poor), the vehicle again started OK - until yesterday!

Then I noticed that I had turned off the cut-off switch for the aux battery - as I'm apt to do when parking up for longish periods.  I presume the PO had installed this or maybe it was from new.

My question is.....is there any way the aux battery being disconnected could affect the glow plug/starting circuit (I can't see anything from the wiring diagrams I've downloaded).  It may just have been that this was switched off when I was trying to start the vehicle whilst I was away - and by switching it on to get power to the interior fixed my problem (nothing to do with the glow plug feed wiring).

The plan today is to do a controlled starting test - with the aux battery connected - to see if things have improved.  After that I'll get the multimeter out and check the glow plug circuit is operating properly.
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Hi. I have been doing the wiring mod, trabsferring radio, lights and cigarette lighter to leisure battery. Cut the 2 red wires and run a 17amp (15 amp fuse) wire to the fuse box and joined them up. Radio and lights work, cigarette lighter doesn't
 
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just done mine, again slightly different. 1 red wire off back of plug led to connector with 3 wires branching off, lights, radio and ciggie lighter. cut the feed to this plug and joined it up with my wire from leisure battery
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote robthedon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 11 at 21:59
Yeah same here that's the problem! A wire colour would be great if you could get it, presume behind fuse box the aftermarket bit meets the original wire?
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i,le try and suss it out and put some pics up but ive got the old nest of rag worms syndrome coming out the fuse box
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote robthedon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 11 at 21:00
Interesting. Where does the wire from said switch run to? I'd do something similar but no idea how to locate the right wire at the dashboard fuse box!
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i tryed to mod my very early 79 westy this baby hasnt even got the box behind the seat!!? it seems that some german has fitted a switch in the leisure battery box that allows all lights / radio to run off leasure when required
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Anyone done something similar on an early westy with ceramic fuses? Tried today but gave up when I removed all fuses and still the stereo and rear strip lights worked... maybe previous owner has done something odd with the wiring though.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Baxter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 16:33
T3's never had an ignition feed for the radio.
So, that current draw you did have, has always been there, just on the starter battery.
 
I have a 2 position switch, one for camping and one for general driving.
One position lets my headunit get switched on and off via the ignition, I leave it here all the time.
When I go camping I flick it the other way if I want the radio on, that lets me listen without the keys in. that feed is taken from liesure battery.
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Thanks for you help gents i have taken the front off the radio and now it is drawing 0.01 amps which i guess is the memory. Just have to remember to take it off.
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Trouble is most modern car stereo systems need the permanent live to remember station frequencies. Any constant LCD display should NOT be drawing a third of an amp...this sounds way to high. A solution could be a solar panel of sufficient output to match the small battery discharge.
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Right gents i've done this mod and all is well except the clock on the radio is always on as there is a constant feed from lb as i have bypased the ignition so it does not have to be on to use radio. It is drawing 0.3 amps so lb wont last that long. Has anyone got away of rectifying this with out putting a switch in the radio feed wire. Thanks Simon C.
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Yes, pull the radio out, find the red wire that is only live with the ignition on, cut the wire, tape up the end from the ignition side of things and forget that end, then pick up a 12v live feed  from the fusebox, one that is always live no matter what the ignition is at, there will be a few spare spade terminals at one end of the f`box in a cluster, run a cable from there, through an in-line fuse holder, connect to the wire that you cut to the radio and Roberts your mothers brother Wink
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My radio only works with the ignition turned on is this correct, if so is there an easy way round making it work with it off. Thanks Simon C.
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