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    Posted: 07 Feb 18 at 21:54
Anyone confirm i can get away with running side lights in the indicator housing? (mine have 2 bulbs in them - one for indicators one for marker/side lights)  From what ive read there within the min/max height etc for side lights. Been running landy led 7" units for the last 6 months and not worried about them but mot due soon. failing that stick the landy ones on the side for mot purpose

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I have the side lights Worthing the indicator housing and they have never been an issue at MOT
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Solely in the indicator housing? None in your headlamps? 
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Ahh you want to make the headlight ones redundant. I still use them. So I basically have 4x side lights
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Yeah, the led lights im using dont have built in sidelights so im hoping ill get away with them in the indicators.
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im under the impression they have to be white. running orange markers does not count..... i have not spoke to my mot guy yet (im running landy leds too) 
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Cheers, They will be white light just from the indicator housing rather than the headlights... Can ya let me know what his opinion is please Thumbs Up If they dont meet requirements, im gonna temporarily stick some landy one on for the test 
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Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

im under the impression they have to be white. running orange markers does not count..... i have not spoke to my mot guy yet (im running landy leds too) 

They must be white and 5w
If they are in the standard position then they will pass the regs on dimensions/limits etc.

If the examiner is a jobsworth then the lenses should be 'E' marked but few testers bother to check

The other option easy with LED's is to run a dim/dip setup with the 'dim' powered from the parking light circuit.
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The way I read it is that technically sidelights soley in the indicator housing should fail the MOT since they share the same reflector and are therefore are obscured:

Reason for Rejection:
f. adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp, e.g. dual-function lamps on foreign vehicles.

from here:
http://www.ukmot.com/manual/1.1/Front-and-Rear-Position-Lamps#MOT

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The mrs BMW MINI sidelights are in the front bumper in the same housing as the indicator, separate from the headlights. The indicators over power the side lights massively, so instead of a tiny sidelight youve now got a flashing orange beacon on the side of your car!

Are the sidelights more for parking/marker lights 

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Originally posted by chris7ian chris7ian wrote:

The way I read it is that technically sidelights soley in the indicator housing should fail the MOT since they share the same reflector and are therefore are obscured:

Reason for Rejection:
f. adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp, e.g. dual-function lamps on foreign vehicles.

from here:
http://www.ukmot.com/manual/1.1/Front-and-Rear-Position-Lamps#MOT


By your thinking then most cars on the road would fail and certainly those with the sidelights in the headlights. No way can you tell in that instance if the sidelights are on at the same time as the headlights

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Originally posted by Bromy Bromy wrote:

The mrs BMW MINI sidelights are in the front bumper in the same housing as the indicator, separate from the headlights. The indicators over power the side lights massively, so instead of a tiny sidelight youve now got a flashing orange beacon on the side of your car!

Are the sidelights more for parking/marker lights 

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Aren't the MINI sub-bumper indicators split like this:
Same housing, separate reflector?



Originally posted by The Dogbot The Dogbot wrote:

Originally posted by chris7ian chris7ian wrote:

The way I read it is that technically sidelights soley in the indicator housing should fail the MOT since they share the same reflector and are therefore are obscured:

Reason for Rejection:
f. adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp, e.g. dual-function lamps on foreign vehicles.

from here:
http://www.ukmot.com/manual/1.1/Front-and-Rear-Position-Lamps#MOT


By your thinking then most cars on the road would fail and certainly those with the sidelights in the headlights. No way can you tell in that instance if the sidelights are on at the same time as the headlights



We're talking about sidelights in indicators, not sidelights in headlights.
I'm not saying I'm definitely right, just that's how I read the regs, same as you can't have your taillight bulb and rear indicator in the same reflector, or front indicator in your headlamp reflector...



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With the bus booked in for mot, i popped in to see my mot bloke and he said that the sidelights will be fine in the indicator housing. As long as there separate bulbs and wont flash with the indicators Thumbs Up 
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Passed no advisories Thumbs Up 

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nice one - another chap on the facebook has just had his mot with similar set up and passed too

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