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T5 Wheels onto T3

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Category: T3 Section
Forum Name: T3 Wheel help
Forum Description: The most common question that pops up on these forums is what wheels fit and what do I need to get them on!
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Topic: T5 Wheels onto T3
Posted By: arbor-aero
Subject: T5 Wheels onto T3
Date Posted: 29 Jan 18 at 20:44
I've some alloys from a T5 and want to fit them onto my T3?
I ordered some converters, but they were the wrong ones, this is quite the norm for me and I got confused with all the 115 and 130 stuff for sound alignment.
Can anybody help me get the correct spaces converters that ill need, please? 
The alloys and new wheels have been sitting in my garden for 3 years and they loook fucking great but not on the floor against me shed.
 




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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 05:15
Have a read here -  http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/wheel-fitting/" rel="nofollow - https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/wheel-fitting/

The T5 should have LK120 and ET55 - so you'll need 112 to 120 converters and spacers of around 20-25mm.

You will have to check the clearance and centre bore though.


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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 07:17
Thank you Ducksass,
I"ve had the bore of the alloys opened up to fit over the shaft. Thats one thing I've done right, only after i'd had them powder coated!
I'll check out them there on the link you forwarded and let you know.

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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 11:48
Brickwerks do not supply them

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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 14:10
H & R do.

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 19:58
generic adaptors of the ebay chap... what size wheels you got and how wide are they? might alter your offsets ti fit under arches....

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Posted By: Bromy
Date Posted: 30 Jan 18 at 23:14
Dont buy Cheap adaptors 

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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 31 Jan 18 at 19:44
The wheels are 16" 205 with 45 tyres.



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Posted By: Bromy
Date Posted: 31 Jan 18 at 23:15
Check your offset and centre bore Thumbs Up

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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 01 Feb 18 at 17:52
The centre bore I've had seemed out to 1mm over the shaft as for the onset is this the 4jj?



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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 05:16
No your offset should be written/embossed on the inside of the rim - it should be about 55 and will be written as ET55.

If you read the page that I linked to in my first reply you will have a better idea.


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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 09:51
The ET is either 51 or 40, theres a number either side of the ET. TH 51 is to the rim side of the ET. The centre bore is 64mm.

The link you gave linked me to the basic t3 items listing on Brickwerks and there no adaptors?


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Posted By: BeJay
Date Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 10:52
 
arbor-aero have a look at https://www.rimstyle.com/pages/alloy_wheels_explained.html" rel="nofollow -   THIS 


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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 14:18
Thanks Bj for that link.

I'm still confusedConfused Whats the offset of the T3 require?



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Posted By: BeJay
Date Posted: 03 Feb 18 at 16:29
 I think the standard offset on a T3 is ET30 but double check before you order any spacers/PCD converters.


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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 05 Feb 18 at 05:22
Taken from the Wheeling fitting page


ET - meaning "Einpresstiefe" in German, this translated as "Insertion depth", or literally translated means back spacing. ET is the measurement from the bolt face of the wheel to the centre-line of the wheel. This measurement is crucial on a T3, get it wrong and your van will not be a nice vehicle to drive and you will forever be scrubbing tyres.
On a T3 you want to achieve an ET of around 30 to 36 ish. Standard wheels drop within this range. The rear isn't usually a problem but the front is. If you dip below 30 then the further away you get the heavier your steering will become, the more likely it will be to "tram-line" meaning the van doesn't want to do anything other than go in straight lines and the inside of the tyres will scrub. Dipping below 30 a little won't really matter too much but when you get down to say ET23 then weird things happen. See fig 1.




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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 05 Feb 18 at 13:32
Thats explaied alot thanks TD.

So, if the T3 is ET30 and i have ET50 wheels! The difference is 20mm. Dose this mean I need spacers of 20mm?



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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 05 Feb 18 at 16:13
Yes.
But as always it's not as simple as that.
20mm is the theoretical but.......you need to assess the clearance before buying the spacers.

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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 05 Feb 18 at 19:42
We could get reaching climax soon.

And where is the clearance and how would I detect it? 


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Posted By: Titus A Duxass
Date Posted: 06 Feb 18 at 05:13
Go to the Help & Support page on the Brickwerks website - http:// www.brickwerks.co.uk/support/" rel="nofollow -  https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/support/  
On there you will find a thread called Wheel Fitting Help ( http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/wheel-fitting/" rel="nofollow - https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/wheel-fitting/ )
And on here there is also a massive sub forum called T3 Wheel Help -  http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/t3-wheel-help_forum20.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/t3-wheel-help_forum20.html  

Read those and you will probably find all the info that you need. It is right there in front of you if you LOOK.


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Posted By: arbor-aero
Date Posted: 06 Feb 18 at 11:41
Thank you DA,

After LOOKING Again the links just go to a generic Brick-yard web page with no links to spacers or the like?
The Link on here for wheel alinement means nothing to me, so i must be a thick as my ex-wife stated.  ut thanks for your help. x



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Posted By: Bromy
Date Posted: 07 Feb 18 at 22:08
Upload some pics of the wheels, any stampings etc

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Posted By: booted
Date Posted: 08 Feb 18 at 16:48
how wide are the T5 wheels [not the tyre]
the CB of the Adaptor  and the wheel will need to be 66.6mm if your wheels are 8x16 you will need and offset of around 25 or less or the inner edge of the wheel will foul the top wishbone
its impossible to give you a definitive answer  the only way to be sure is to offer your wheels up to your van and do some measuring and calculations even the camber setting on your van could affect whether they will go on or not. there is also a surprising amount of variance between tyre sizes . [ the same size tyre from different manufacturers does not have the same dimensions
my crewcab had 8x16 et35 wheels with 215/55x16 tyres and a 10mm spacer  giving an effective et of 25. all 4 wheels had the same size tyres  2 were Dunlop  2 were Pirelli the Pirellis fitted with about 5 mm of clearance . the dunlops wouldn't go on they fouled the wishbone
 
 



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