Syncro renovation
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Topic: Syncro renovation
Posted By: VW Nerd
Subject: Syncro renovation
Date Posted: 22 Nov 13 at 22:54
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Ive been the proud owner of my VW 1.6TD syncro for about 3 years now, but I've had very few chances to get much use out of it. I was very impressed with the grip while driving up a hill side covered in sheet ice.
Now in need of an mot having been sat for most of these 3 years and I find myself with plenty of work to do. Lots of rust and holes which I guess is usual for a vehicle that is so good for winter driving on snow and ice and the UK road salt. Removing front wheel arch http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000618484/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000618484/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1232 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Rotten B pillar once rear of arch is removed http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000460275/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000460275/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1234 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Rusty lower rear 1/4 Panel. http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000681483/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000681483/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1235 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000612654/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000612654/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1237 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000611674/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000611674/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1238 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000678003/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000678003/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1239 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000609654/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000609654/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1241 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr New brake pipes through out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000670343/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000670343/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1248 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr New stainless fuel tank straps fitted. http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000534426/" rel="nofollow">  http://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000534426/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1246 by http://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr More photos to follow are work progresses. ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
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Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 23 Nov 13 at 08:04
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excellent!! watching this Tim.. ------------- T3 1981 Westy Vanagon - thinks lubricant is a fuel |
Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 23 Nov 13 at 10:20
| Power steering I see? Is it rhd? What is it exactly...pics are kinda close up! |
Posted By: youthy giblets
Date Posted: 10 Dec 13 at 21:22
| LHD or twin slider? Is it getting the Tdi treatment Tim? |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 10 Dec 13 at 21:32
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LHD with the full steel roof.
Yes tdi but not sure what to do about the gearbox. AHF ratios a rubbish for tdi even with taller tyres, so may end up fitting a UN7 set up from R enault 21 quadra. But this will loose the G gear option. ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: Gtavalanche
Date Posted: 14 Dec 13 at 08:58
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Have you seen the synquat build on the samba. Some talented fella is fitting a counter clockwise 1.8t with quattro running gear. Again loses the g-gear though. ------------- I taste Hurty! |
Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 14 Dec 13 at 16:16
Your right, a standard AHF is not good with a tdi...ran mine like that for a week or two and whilst it was quite nippy on country lanes it was no good on motorways and bypasses...a syncro with no g gear sounds like a bad idea...without it off road use would be accompanied by a smell of burning clutch I reckon and could actually be dangerous..handy if you ever have a big trailer on the back as well as manoeuvring in g is a lot more relaxing than revving and juddering like in say a transit. |
VW Nerd wrote:Posted By: jes*b
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 07:52
| Gotta keep the g gear IMHO |
Posted By: Gtavalanche
Date Posted: 09 Jan 14 at 07:56
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or use the transmission from an A6 allroad with the low ratio option. ------------- I taste Hurty! |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 10 Jan 14 at 20:56
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The joy of the UN7 is that the front diff unit has diff lock but I guess that the Audi A6 stuff relies on ABS controlling spinning wheels. More technology to go wrong.
------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 21 Oct 14 at 13:51
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To keep things up to date.
I decided to keep the syncro transmission but have taller gears fitted. So now have the taller std 2nd gear shafts and also the tallest 3rd and 4th gear sets fitted. I've change to 16" wheels with 215 70 16 General grabbers so hope to be able to cruise at 60mph without thrashing the engine to hard. I also started cutting the rot out of the van ready for the MOT. I need to get things done here as my panel van is out of tax and mot at the end of the month and I want to replace it with the syncro for the winter. Pictures to follow when I have time to up load. 90hp tdi engine ready to fit, but need to find a good solution to cooling the charge air with the syncro fuel tank in the way of my current solution.  ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 21 Oct 14 at 20:10
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Some photos of the work so far with the body. I removed the lower section of the off side panel, behind sliding door. LHD to reveal some rust. No surprise there really. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000675093/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000675093/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1243 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr End closing panel rotton. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000538246/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/11000538246/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1242 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr After a bit of cutting and grinding https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15593928635/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15593928635/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1462 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr New panels being made and offered up https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407935057/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407935057/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1465 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Rebuilding the sill end closing panel https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408314980/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408314980/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1467 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Weld through primer to slow the rust down on the new metal https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594763342/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594763342/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1471 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Not sure what the box section was meant to look like in the C pillar as the bottom was completely rotten away. So I had a guess at what I thought should have been there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407821378/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407821378/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1475 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 21 Oct 14 at 20:21
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Then on to the rear corner of the bus. Looking toward the back on the off side. More rust and more holes.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408310240/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408310240/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1478 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/14973184864/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/14973184864/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1477 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Looking up at the panel located behind the off side rear light. More rust.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15591262941/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15591262941/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1480 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr After unpicking the panels I start to make up replacements in new metal. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408308970/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408308970/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1481 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407927477/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407927477/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1483 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr And then on to fitting the new metal https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407927167/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407927167/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1484 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr New arch and outer panels fitted. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594751892/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594751892/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1496 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 21 Oct 14 at 20:35
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Then on to the front off side jacking point and B pillar.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594758182/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15594758182/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1485 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Cutting off the front of the off side out rigger to expose the jacking point and the end of the sill. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408306380/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408306380/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1487 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15593916225/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15593916225/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1490 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr From under the van looking toward the front showing the rotten end of inner sill being removed. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/14973768763/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/14973768763/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1492 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Holes made from above to remove spot welds holding the inner sill to the floor. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408302630/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15408302630/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1493 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Jacking point and front end of sill removed. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407921657/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407921657/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1494 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr From the front looking toward the back https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407812208/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15407812208/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1495 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: bene
Date Posted: 31 Oct 14 at 10:03
| Great pics and info... cheers! keep up the good work. |
Posted By: andylen
Date Posted: 07 Nov 14 at 09:32
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Well done Tim Found your build at last. Will start putting mine on this weekend |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 07 Nov 14 at 09:45
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I will get some more picture on here soon. Plenty of new metal now fitted. Tim. ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: twisted wheel
Date Posted: 19 Nov 14 at 21:16
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Looking good. Bet it feels nice to make some progress after all the digging/grinding? I'm doing a couple of syncros for people at the moment , one as bad & the other is much much worse than yours! They're all worth saving - keep up the good work! ------------- Welding & Restoration Services 07970 827336 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Welding-and-Restoration-Services/254951737969847 |
Posted By: VW Nerd
Date Posted: 20 Nov 14 at 10:34
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Off side B pillar https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15646985799/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15646985799/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1667 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Outer B pilar with rebuilt rear of arch going back on https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212822774/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212822774/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1676 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Front panel off https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15830916461/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15830916461/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1665 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Sand blasted cross members inc repair to bumper and impact section due to rust https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15834352482/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15834352482/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1674 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15832786125/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15832786125/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1675 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr Repair plate made for front offside out rigger near cab step https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212822354/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212822354/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1677 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr The above panel will live here once this area has been repaired, blasted and painted. https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212880154/" rel="nofollow">  https://www.flickr.com/photos/109590448@N08/15212880154/" rel="nofollow - IMG_1670 by https://www.flickr.com/people/109590448@N08/" rel="nofollow - ultimate_engineering , on Flickr ------------- Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts. Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 20 Nov 14 at 19:21
what happened to the b pillar?  looks all kinds of wrong!------------- UberFukz broke another! sucky sucky five dollah! always out numbered never out gunned! RWS welding 07846 380 467 (worcs) |