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which donor is best for a TDI 1.9 conversion

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Topic: which donor is best for a TDI 1.9 conversion
Posted By: 16vmini
Subject: which donor is best for a TDI 1.9 conversion
Date Posted: 28 Sep 11 at 17:30
have come across a 1998 SEAT ALHAMBRA 1.9 TDI AUTO , 

is this a good choice ? 
i assume i would have to pickup a flywheel/clutch setup of a manual car ?

ideally what is the best donor for a 1.9TDI conversion ? 

regards

Matt


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Posted By: Joker_Club
Date Posted: 28 Sep 11 at 18:47
 Confused


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Posted By: busbuddy
Date Posted: 28 Sep 11 at 20:23
I believe the auto box ecu's are different to manual box ecu's

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Posted By: mazz
Date Posted: 28 Sep 11 at 21:58
Auto ECU is different, but still not a bad donor car, really a golf 3 or seat ibiza,cordoba or toledo are your best bets as they are a more simple vehicle and ideal if you have not done a TDi conversion before

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Posted By: 16vmini
Date Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 12:40
cheers guys , is a mk4 golf tdi ok to use ? 

i have done many other engine conversions in other cars (vauxhall , suzuki , honda etc ), so i am very happy with ECU's and wires etc. .. , allthough never done a TDI .

i do have a re-cond gearbox that i was going to use with my SVX engine , ok , it sounds like it could do with a high gear really .. but better that what i have ., (guess you can cheat a little on tire sizes )

i have been reading allot on here , but as allways ... everyone seems to have done it a little different ..

cheers

Matt


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Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 17:32
Originally posted by 16vmini 16vmini wrote:

cheers guys , is a mk4 golf tdi ok to use ? 

i have done many other engine conversions in other cars (vauxhall , suzuki , honda etc ), so i am very happy with ECU's and wires etc. .. , allthough never done a TDI .

i do have a re-cond gearbox that i was going to use with my SVX engine , ok , it sounds like it could do with a high gear really .. but better that what i have ., (guess you can cheat a little on tire sizes )

i have been reading allot on here , but as allways ... everyone seems to have done it a little different ..

cheers

Matt
hi, in a word...no, the mk4s like ALH etc have a different block, that in itself is not an issue but the sump of the t3 wont bolt on the the mk4 blocks, also the mounts wont, anything is possible and PD engines can be put in but for a sraight forward swap (ahem) you need to find a 1Z or AFN type motor with the water pump driven via the crank pulley not the cambelt as on a mk4. also the mk 4 electrickery is more involved...can be done but more of it and also the early TDIs dont have an immob to get round (pre 94 i think)


Posted By: 16vmini
Date Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 18:01
cheers , just read about the mk4 , also need clocks etc , (speedo pickup i think )

assume my standard diesel fuel tank is fine for a TDI conversion , i know with some of the engine conversions i have done before i had needed to increase the size of fuel lines running from the tank etc

Matt 


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Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 30 Sep 11 at 19:42
yep the tanks fine and the pipes will do, no lift pump to worry about or owt. 


Posted By: 16vmini
Date Posted: 01 Oct 11 at 11:17
ok , found 96 golf TDI , with engine code  AHU 077*

good to go for ?

Matt


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Posted By: mazz
Date Posted: 01 Oct 11 at 12:37
yep, buy it now



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Posted By: 16vmini
Date Posted: 09 Oct 11 at 20:47
would this have the correct TDI engine ? :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Transporter-800-special-1-9-Turbo-Diesel-Restoration-Project-/180735979383?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a14b42f77#ht_589wt_1344" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Transporter-800-special-1-9-Turbo-Diesel-Restoration-Project-/180735979383?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2a14b42f77#ht_589wt_1344


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Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 09 Oct 11 at 20:57
i would avoid that because A, its a bin B, the t4 engine has no dipstick on the front of the block so you would have to drill one and block the old one and (C) i dont even think they do a tdi 4 pot t4...might be wrong but as theres no engine code stated i cant check...get a golf or passat one..earlier the better.


Posted By: light
Date Posted: 09 Oct 11 at 21:49
t4`s 1.9`s are all idi not tdi


Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 09 Oct 11 at 22:12
thats what i thought...but seem to recall seeing a non turbo indirect diesel in a t4...


Posted By: 16vmini
Date Posted: 13 Jan 12 at 19:56
sorry to drag this up again , but new year and started to look again for a donor ,

saw this :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-DIESEL-TDI-ENGINE-1Z-COMPLETE-MK1-CADDY-T4-T3-/150549077191?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d6c9cc7#ht_524wt_1110" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-DIESEL-TDI-ENGINE-1Z-COMPLETE-MK1-CADDY-T4-T3-/150549077191?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d6c9cc7#ht_524wt_1110

any advice ?

Matt


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Posted By: light
Date Posted: 15 Jan 12 at 19:47
Originally posted by 16vmini 16vmini wrote:

sorry to drag this up again , but new year and started to look again for a donor ,

saw this :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-DIESEL-TDI-ENGINE-1Z-COMPLETE-MK1-CADDY-T4-T3-/150549077191?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d6c9cc7#ht_524wt_1110" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-DIESEL-TDI-ENGINE-1Z-COMPLETE-MK1-CADDY-T4-T3-/150549077191?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d6c9cc7#ht_524wt_1110

any advice ?

Matt
 
It will do the job 1z is the earliest version of the tdi


Posted By: max and caddy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 12 at 19:59
and will have no immobilizer as well if its early enuf...


Posted By: lloydy
Date Posted: 17 Jan 12 at 18:38
Trying to find a donor car myself, so if anyone knows of one local to them....... It would be appreciated.
AHU, AFN preferred. I've set myself a £500 limit
Cheers, Lloyd


Posted By: andy1300gt
Date Posted: 18 Jan 12 at 23:54
Hi Lloyd, I found a guy near me in Bristol. Removed everything required from the car for £450. I will try and find the details foe you.

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Posted By: lloydy
Date Posted: 19 Jan 12 at 07:27
Thanks, that would be great. I've got some people coming back with prices this week hopefully.



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