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Topic: oh joy... another fault
Posted By: kawolsky
Subject: oh joy... another fault
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 13:33
doing 85 [on a private runway officer] today my glowplug light starts flashing... slow down then try to accelerate... van is in limp mode. switch off for 5 minutes, try again , perfect. Caned it 50 miles home no problems. It's had a MAF sensor recently and has been driving ok.
Do i just push it over a cliff now of take to VW tomorrow ????



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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 14:31
Naah, just have a look for any fault code/s recorded by the ECU to see if that sheds any light on the issue.


Posted By: Petehelmet
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 15:36
Oh the joys of owning a brand new model, can't wait to start my listCry

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Posted By: kendall
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 16:13
it worries me that i'll only do about 15,000 miles in 3 years so my warranty will be finished before every thing has broken and been repaired for free. 


Posted By: euanbc
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 17:11
I had a flashing glowplug light on my T5. Drove about for a few days forgetting to phone the stealer. Finally phoned and was told by the kind lady on the phone to check the brake lights, true enough both bulbs blown. Replaced the bulbs and everything was good.

Not the most obvious warning

Euan


Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 17:34
Originally posted by euanbc euanbc wrote:

I had a flashing glowplug light on my T5. Drove about for a few days forgetting to phone the stealer. Finally phoned and was told by the kind lady on the phone to check the brake lights, true enough both bulbs blown. Replaced the bulbs and everything was good.

Not the most obvious warning

Euan
yeah i checked them... both fine. I did't think the brakelight switch/bulb thing puts it in limp mode. was driving like shit while light was flashing.


Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 17:42
You poor soul. See if they'll swap it for a 174.

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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 17:45
Originally posted by Tony M Tony M wrote:

You poor soul. See if they'll swap it for a 174.
I'm trying to love it but it rejects me.... the speed training i've been trying on it just keeps breaking things.


Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 17:56
If you break it 'big time' do you think they'd give you another van, and you said you had no confidence in this one?



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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 18:06
Originally posted by Tony M Tony M wrote:

If you break it 'big time' do you think they'd give you another van, and you said you had no confidence in this one?

doubt it.. but it's worth a try.
they told me after the dpf regen problems to "drive it hard regularly... so i do. i'll take it to the mothership tomorrow and see what stored faults they find. I'm on first name terms in there now.. getting my own parking space soon!


Posted By: willhollin
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 19:09
When was yours built?


Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 19:15
Originally posted by kawolsky kawolsky wrote:

doubt it.. but it's worth a try.
they told me after the dpf regen problems to "drive it hard regularly... so i do. i'll take it to the mothership tomorrow and see what stored faults they find. I'm on first name terms in there now.. getting my own parking space soon!
 
You have a flashing glow plug light closely followed by the dreaded limp mode and you think your DPF problems are over - I suspect not..........Cry
 
Best place for a DPF is in the bottom of Pendle Performance`s skip
 
 


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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 20:29
Originally posted by energysolutions energysolutions wrote:

Originally posted by kawolsky kawolsky wrote:

doubt it.. but it's worth a try.
they told me after the dpf regen problems to "drive it hard regularly... so i do. i'll take it to the mothership tomorrow and see what stored faults they find. I'm on first name terms in there now.. getting my own parking space soon!
 
You have a flashing glow plug light closely followed by the dreaded limp mode and you think your DPF problems are over - I suspect not..........Cry
 
Best place for a DPF is in the bottom of Pendle Performance`s skip
 
 
do you think it's the dpf??? when that played up the dpf light came on,,, did feel similar though.


Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 20:30
Originally posted by willhollin willhollin wrote:

When was yours built?
July


Posted By: CLONKY
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 20:37
Isnt it a faulty brake light switch? If you press the brake pedal when driving normally power is dramatically reduced (apart from the assistance the brakes are giving) Sounds like a faulty switch,


Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 20:43
Originally posted by CLONKY CLONKY wrote:

Isnt it a faulty brake light switch? If you press the brake pedal when driving normally power is dramatically reduced (apart from the assistance the brakes are giving) Sounds like a faulty switch,
no dont think so..,  was constant driving on a long road for 45 minutes , started hesitating when i accelerated up hills and generally felt wrong, i was cruising at a steady speed for about 5 miles and the revs were climbing and dropping "by magic"! then the glow plug light flashed, i slowed down and it was in limp mode. After switching off and restarting the fault had gone.... for now.


Posted By: swiss
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 21:34
Cant believe it has gone wrong again
Boy you have had some luck with that van


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Posted By: swiss
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 21:35
DPF
Yep I think so too


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Posted By: john the sparky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 22:23
it sounds like the spiritual successor to my dobloCry


Posted By: john the sparky
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 22:24
(except at least it gets fixed under warranty!)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
and now I've just found the edit option......Embarrassed


Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 22:50

The way your T5.1 has performed so far (problem after problem) wouldnt make me want to rush out and buy one - quite the opposite in fact....

Have you had any issues Tony? Or are you so engrossed in Sportline searches that the dash could be flashing like a christmas tree and you wouldnt notice?LOL


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Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 22:52
Originally posted by energysolutions energysolutions wrote:

The way your T5.1 has performed so far (problem after problem) wouldnt make me want to rush out and buy one - quite the opposite in fact....

Have you had any issues Tony? Or are you so engrossed in Sportline searches that the dash could be flashing like a christmas tree and you wouldnt notice?LOL

Mine is going in on Weds because the rear door badge came off when I washed it. There is a slight hesitation when accelerating downhill so they are going to look at that too. Nothing to be concerned about.
I've been training mine to go fast too, like Kawolsky. It'll do 108mph which is 10 more than the book says. I'm quite pleased with it actually, but don't tell my old Sportline that if you see it on the road.


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Posted By: The Transporter
Date Posted: 03 Jan 11 at 23:21
Does anyone remember Fiftypence and the grief that he had with very early first gen T5... They sorted the problems eventually but his was always a box of shit

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 00:07

Does it have a DSG gearbox ?  I was reading a thread on VW Watercooled forum about a faulty DSG that was over-riding the driver's input on accelerator and gear selection (but his didn't do a limp-home).

I hope you/VW find the problem and can fix it.
 
BTW I believe the "Thrashing it all the time will fix/prevent DPF and turbo problems" advice that is frequently peddled as the cure for many TDI engine problems is bullshit !
 
Driving flatout wherever possible is only going to produce more soot. More soot is going to clog up the DPF sooner rather than later. Even after a regeneration some soot is left behind (smaller residual particles). Eventually these residual particles will PERMANENTLY block the DPF and it will need to be replaced (or removed with a remap).  Full accelerator from low revs is the worst for soot production (look at any turbo TDI that doesn't have a DPF to see what I'm taliking about).
 
This misconception seems to be partially based on the need to have the revs above 1,800-2,000rpm to allow a regeneration to happen, but simple steady cruising at these revs will allow an effective regen, there is no need to rag your engine to do it.
 
That said, there is a one legitimate reason to use full accelerator from about 1,500rpm every now and then - it exercises the turbos variable vanes (VNT) through their full range of movement.  But this only needs to be done once or twice per drive to be effective.  Some TDIs that are always driven very gently at low revs will allow a build up of soot to jam/stick the vanes in the "low rev/max boost" position, then if they do get a welly properly planted the boost suddenly gets too high at about 2,000rpm and the ECU kills the fun to protect the engine - the dreaded "limp home" mode.  But you don't need to drive like a madman all the time to avoid the problem, just every now and then will do the trick.
 
Sorry to take away your excuses chaps, but being a creative lot I'm sure you'l be able to come up with some other rationalisations for your "testing on private roads/runaways".


Posted By: The Transporter
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 00:37
Do you think "Just wanting to piss off a 4 cylinder van driver" qualifies as a reasonable excuse?

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 14:13
OK by me, but I find the "accelerate up a steep hill when a Korean shitbox sedan/hatch has moved into the overtaking lane next to you, and then leave them for dead as the hill gets steeper" is also deeply satisfying (especially when you can hear them redline their engine in 3rd and they still can't make any headway).  I know it is immature, but hey, over here the speed cameras and radar are nearly always set up on downhills and the flats, so uphills are a bit safer Big smile
 
Remember you DO need to exercise the turbo vanes every now and then (just not all the time).


Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 17:06
I've just picked up a 140 Kombi  courtesy van. I don't think it's much nippier than my 102.

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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 17:15
i,ve got a 140 DSG loan van... never driven one before, better than i imagined.

apparently mine has a faulty EGR valve....... and.... there's a modified one which they've ordered."KNOWN FAULT" on the GP....... SO RECALL THE VANS YOU'VE SOLD AND REPLACE THE FAULTY ONES!!!


Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 19:40
EGRs, DPFs etc are all purely to please tree huggers and are only useful for holding down other rubbish in the skip that might blow away
 
This problem aint unique to VW, my father in laws Land Rover has had both EGRs replaced and my brother in laws Transit is having EGR woes at present
 
  


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Posted By: edwyn
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 21:03
hi i am quite new to this is your van a 5 cyl and do you have what appears to be lag under 2000 rpm? van not pulling well.


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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 04 Jan 11 at 21:10
Originally posted by edwyn edwyn wrote:

hi i am quite new to this is your van a 5 cyl and do you have what appears to be lag under 2000 rpm? van not pulling well.
No  ......................        no


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 05 Jan 11 at 15:20
Originally posted by edwyn edwyn wrote:

hi i am quite new to this is your van a 5 cyl and do you have what appears to be lag under 2000 rpm? van not pulling well.
 
I have a 5 cyl 2.5 TDI and when one of the exhaust sensors failed it was gutless (no torque) until the revs got to 2,000rpm.  IIRC it had some kind of emissions/workshop warning light on constantly.  The sensor was replaced under warranty.  Does your van have any other symptoms ?  ( I can think of other possible causes).


Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 08 Jan 11 at 09:02
Update.....  EGR valve replaced, van seems ok now. Did a 480 mile round trip yesterday without a problem, smooth up hills for the first time. Started with a full tank and the digi fuel gauge just dropped below half as i got home, mostly motorway m5/m4 steady 80 ish. Don't really do mpg calcs..... but based on previous T5's and this one with all previous problems on the same run that's excellent fuel consumption.



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