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Topic: Too Good To Be True......

Posted By: energysolutions
Subject: Too Good To Be True......
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 21:30

I found http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/vans/advert+search/N-244,Ne-7-8-27-64-105-133-146-236/advert.action;jsessionid=DE811FEC2792FDECF67F8349358A95A6?R=200946345908664&distance=366&postcode=BT57+8TN&channel=VANS&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=2007&vehicleRegLetter=07&make_keyword=Volkswagen - this and reckoned there has to be a digit missing in the price (probably a "1" before the quoted price) - If there aint it is mega cheap......

I like the quote in the description that it will do 130

I know for a fact it wont (tried my own 174 on a private road

) - unless of course he had taken the trouble to have the factory set limiter removed.......

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Posted By: BERTYBUS
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 22:12

TGTBT!!

ring him in morn and offer 5 and half for it...final offer

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 12 Nov 09 at 22:18

I bet his phone is red hot.........

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Posted By: andycapandy
Date Posted: 14 Nov 09 at 20:46

Normally (well always when its this cheap) a con when email adress is shown (inserted in pic)

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 14 Nov 09 at 21:34

andycapandy wrote:

Normally (well always when its this cheap) a con when email adress is shown (inserted in pic)

That makes sense, the sort of thing were you get a reply like:

"Hi, I am selling this fine vehicle on behalf of my dead brothers cousins wifes hairdresser who unfortunately overdosed on viagra.

The van is the 7 cylinder spitfire engine model with dual flux capacitor that you desire

This van is presently is ~~Nigeria~~ Austrailia but free same day shipping (to your door) is included in the price

Payment must be made by Western Union to "Scamtech Paysafe" Escrow account where the money is kept in a totally secure 3rd party account until you have taken delivery of the goods and then you forward the code to release the money - Of course you have 6 months to test this vehicle to ensure you are 100% satisfied before completing payment

Please forward the following so I can start the ~~scamming~~ process:

Name:

Address:

Age:

List of tattoos:

Shoe size:

Bank account number (with sort code):

Credit card number (with start/end dates and 3 digit card verification code on rear):

Inside leg length:

Once I have this information a fellow ~~scammer~~ colleague will be in touch to ~~shaft you~~ transfer funds into the 100% totally secure "Scamtech Paysafe" Escrow account

Regards,

Edward"

This style of thing except with infinately worse spelling and grammar

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 04:15

Or the van exists, but belongs to someone else altogether (or variations on that theme) :(

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 12:13

gregozedobe wrote:

Or the van exists, but belongs to someone else altogether (or variations on that theme) :(

Yeah thats normally the case - a genuine advert thats been cloned

Usually a quick look will uncover a heap of flaws that dont match the accompanying description ie: Vehicle in some far off place but looks to be a UK vehicle in UK surroundings

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Posted By: Mr Hedgehog
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 12:36

energysolutions wrote:

dual flux capacitor that you desire

Mc Fly!!

ES you should try http://www.419eater.com/index.php - http://www.419eater.com/index.php for a bit of scambaiting

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 12:42

Mr Hedgehog wrote:

energysolutions wrote:

dual flux capacitor that you desire

Mc Fly!!

ES you should try http://www.419eater.com/index.php - http://www.419eater.com/index.php for a bit of scambaiting

Yep, been on there and picked up some excellent tips, some of the stories there are well funny

I find scambaiting quite an enjoyable passtime

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Posted By: Mr Hedgehog
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 13:13

energysolutions wrote:

Mr Hedgehog wrote:

energysolutions wrote:

dual flux capacitor that you desire

Mc Fly!!

ES you should try http://www.419eater.com/index.php - http://www.419eater.com/index.php for a bit of scambaiting

Yep, been on there and picked up some excellent tips, some of the stories there are well funny

I find scambaiting quite an enjoyable passtime

your right ES it's so funny just how far people will go for greed and the 419 site nails them

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Posted By: Blue Sweeper
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 16:14

There was a scam recently that was within the M25 where a vehicle was advertised at a low price, but the vehicle never existed. The ruse went something like this:

You made the phone call to the sellers mobile phone and you were instructed to meet up at his "home address" only it wasn't his home. Turns out it was an empty house and you had to bring cash only to buy.

When you got there you were robbed at gun point and the robbers then drove off with your money.

How do I know this, I helped out in a scam to catch them and put them behind bars.

You've been warned!

Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 15 Nov 09 at 16:35

Blue Sweeper wrote:

There was a scam recently that was within the M25 where a vehicle was advertised at a low price, but the vehicle never existed. The ruse went something like this:

When you got there you were robbed at gun point and the robbers then drove off with your money.

How do I know this, I helped out in a scam to catch them and put them behind bars.

You've been warned!

Quick everyone! Edit all your posts about the top speeds you've achieved in your vans.

I'm going to sell my Sportline as it will only do 70 (on a motorway)

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Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 08:38

It's ok, he's only the cleaner.

Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 18:55

kawolsky wrote:

It's ok, he's only the cleaner.

What, like Harvey Keitel in the Assassins movie?

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 19:53

I have had a response from the "seller" (I probably shouldnt post this in case someone else steals this fantastic deal from under my nose)

Good afternoon Danny,

I appreciate that you contacted me. First let me say that the 2007 VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER 2.5TDI PD, diesel, is available for £6,000 + free shipping to your door only for UK, the VAT is already payed.
This van has never had paintwork or any issues, it is one of the best all around driving vans you can buy. If you have been waiting on a real clean enthusiast owned VW Transporter, you have found it, more pictures at mhtml:%7bC2B03385-F146-45FC-9CDC-2E1E7E4AC0A0%7dmid://00000673/!x-usc:http://www.flickr.com/photos/44634285@N07 -

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Posted By: jef_mp
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 21:47

I sent a question to the seller from a ficticious e-mail account I set up with a false name and got a similar reply. Rather worringly, and co-incidently, the person who responded was actually using my real name - which isn't that common. I sold something on autotrader fairly recently and wonder whether they've just lifted my name from e-mail address on my ad - bastards!

Good afternoon,

I appreciate that you contacted me. First let me say that the 2007 VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER 2.5TDI PD, diesel, is available for £6,000 + free shipping to your door only for UK, the VAT is already payed.
All done on van are factory fitted! No improvisations at all!
This van has never had paintwork or any issues, it is one of the best all around driving vans you can buy. If you have been waiting on a real clean enthusiast owned VW Transporter, you have found it, more pictures at http://www.flickr.com/photos/44634285@N07 -

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 21:58

jef_mp wrote:

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Posted By: jef_mp
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 22:01

Yes - but its not me selling it, honest!

Or trying to con someone!

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 22:10

jef_mp wrote:

Yes - but its not me selling it, honest!

Or trying to con someone!

No worries, but it does confirm that said scamming scumbag is still using your name for his exploits........

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Posted By: jef_mp
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 22:18

The link in the 1st post isn't working anymore - hopefully its been removed

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 16 Nov 09 at 22:23

jef_mp wrote:

The link in the 1st post isn't working anymore - hopefully its been removed

Yeah, you`re right, its gone

So did you sell it then?

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 08:10

Seems it aint sold at all - "Matt" has contacted me again after I emailed him asking where and when I could view, (My prediction earlier in this thread was close enough):

Hi Danny,

The van is in perfect condition, tires are 80% good, MOT-ed up to Feb. 2010, no accidents, no hidden issues (please HPI check the VRM), full service history with all bills, no modifications all factory fitted, still road taxed for this year, VAT already payed.

Our deal will run secured and insured by AirCargo Express CDS mhtml:%7bC2B03385-F146-45FC-9CDC-2E1E7E4AC0A0%7dmid://00000094/!x-usc:http://www.aircargo-express.eu.com/ - www.aircargo-express.eu.com , they will hold your funds during van delivery and inspection period (5 days for inspection).
If by any reason, you will decline your aquisition, AirCargo Express CDS will refund you in full and I will get back my shipping expenses from van insurance.
In order to start the official transaction I need to know the shipping address for AirCargo Express. As soon as I have it, I'll start the official procedure and ECDS service will notify you about this.

Kind regards,
Matt

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Posted By: jef_mp
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 11:54

It must be genuine if AirCargo Express CDS will be holding the money

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 13:28

jef_mp wrote:

It must be genuine if AirCargo Express CDS will be holding the money

Rock solid

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 14:10

"Matt" has assured me that viewing the van is not necessary as it is in perfect condition, also included in the deal is a 5 day inspection period - result or what!

Hi Danny,

I would love to close the deal in person with you but this time I can`t because I am busy with job duties in Italy, I have many meetings in Bari, Bologna and Florence.

You will get 5 days inspection period prior your decision to buy the van, but first you have to complete the deposit to Air Cargo Express CDS or eBay Motors as a third party.
In order to start the official transaction I need to know the shipping address for AirCargo Express. As soon as I have it, I'll start the official procedure and ECDS service will notify you about this.

Kind regards,
Matt

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Posted By: Reverend
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 15:17

I'd be inclined to suggest you're willing to Easyjet over & drive home, will bring local currency in your pocket..

Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 17:30

Ask him if he'd be interested to help you get £850,000,000 out of the country for an ex-govt official friend of yours.

Could you post his e mail address or phone number as i'd love to wind him up.

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 19:34

Tony M wrote:

Ask him if he'd be interested to help you get £850,000,000 out of the country for an ex-govt official friend of yours.

Could you post his e mail address or phone number as i'd love to wind him up.

I like your style!

There ya go: mtpnll@yahoo.co.uk

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 19:38

Reverend wrote:

I'd be inclined to suggest you're willing to Easyjet over & drive home, will bring local currency in your pocket..

I have done just that - twice!

He has tried to put me off by insisting he is too busy with work (I smell something)

Do Easyjet do flights to Nigeria?

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Posted By: jef_mp
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 19:53

I'm tempted to e-mail him using my real e-mail address telling him i'm interested in buying it - wonder if he'd notice its my identity he's using

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 20:00

jef_mp wrote:

I'm tempted to e-mail him using my real e-mail address telling him i'm interested in buying it - wonder if he'd notice its my identity he's using

I laughed when I read that

Chance are this donkey is so daft he wouldnt

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Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 20:20

I have emailed him. Here, for you all to see is a copy.

Hello my friend,and a good day to you. My name is Mpwengay Ksanga, the very reverend minister of the Kuntuku Church of Nigeria. I see that you have a wonderful Volkswagen van for sale. My parishioners and I have been saving for many years to acquire such a wonderful vehicle to help us spread our dear Lords word around the townships. We have managed to save up six thousand of your British Pounds and would like to buy your vehicle. If you could arrange for the vehicle to be left at the docks at Tilbury at your earliest convenience, I will send one of my flock to collect it. If you would be so kind to let me know any additional costs incurred in the transportation of the wonderful Vlokswagen vehicle to Tilbury docks, I will ensure that my colleague brings this with him. I would come myself but I have important meetings with government officials for the next few weeks. Actually, I wonder if you would be so kind as to help one of these officials with a matter of national importance. If I were to place in your bank account (only temporarily) £850,006000, and then you give my colleague back the £850,000000 in cash, I would be pleased to give you say £100 for your trouble. No no no no. Forgive me for even suggesting such an imposition. Please inform me when it is convenient to purchase the wonderful Volkswagen vehicle. Your servant The Very Reverend Mpwengay Ksanga

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 20:39

I`m gonna play him a little more and then try him for a swop:

This is my standard response:

I am a little strapped for cash at the moment so I wondered if you would consider swapping it for a 3 wheeled van? I have included a picture of my brother and I with the van.

It comes complete with go faster stripes and sunstrip.

It has done 28304756284 miles and was serviced religously every 3495637399930 miles. Do not let the miles put you off because I can add or remove as many as you like to your "desired" mileage.

I cut the sunroof into it myself and it works well while there is no rain. A yellow mac is supplied in case of rain.

It will do 70 MPH but you do need a cliff to achieve this.

The rear window has a small crack but I have sucessfully repaired it with selotape.

It is a little rusty but you do get used to the hole in the floor and remember where not to touch.

Optional extras include sat nav, steel wheels, speedometer, air con and cigarette lighter. Window wipers are available at extra cost.

This is a very reluctant sale and we only sell this fine vehicle so my brother can finally realise his dream of becoming a woman and the money from the van will pay for the operation.

I could take your van as part exchange and we could negotiate how much money you will have to give me.

Please let me know if we have a deal

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Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 21:03

Isn't the internet great!

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Posted By: smidsy
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 22:18

your killing me you lot.

keep it up!

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 23:44

Well, I sent my proposition about a potential swap and this is what I got back:

Hi,

I need some cash for bills so I cannot have the accept the swap with your nice car, the good news is that I can hold the vn for you one week if you are keen to buy it.

Matt

He`s either incredibly stupid or very persistant...........

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Posted By: Tony M
Date Posted: 17 Nov 09 at 23:50

He hasn't replied to my email. Cry

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 00:07

Tony M wrote:

He hasn't replied to my email. Cry

Yeah but you were trying to scam him

Ok - here is my reply:

Hi,

Is there no way we can sort out a part exchange for these two vehicles?

I may be able to reduce the price of my vehicle since Bruno (my pet rottweiler cross) has been living in the rear and he is not yet house broken (It would benefit from a clean)

The last time I attempted to clean it I almost lost my glass eye and have not tried since

Also, the vehicle is not as keen to go round left corners as right corners so with these defects in mind I would consider a straight swop

I am currently awaiting a shipping quote from "AirCargo Express CDS" and provided you are agreeable I will ship the vehicle to your door and give you a 5 day inspection period

Let me know if you are interested as I have had other interested parties in this unique vehicle

Regards,

Danny

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 07:21

Hey, at least his written english is pretty good. It used to be the poor spelling and grammar gave the game away. You've got to give them credit for improving their spiel ;)

It must be worth their while, they keep doing these scams so they must be getting a return on their time ie at least some suckers are falling for their scams .

Posted By: kawolsky
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 08:40

Another quality thread. Almost choked on my tea twice!!

Was going to enquire about the van for a laugh but couldn't improve on the 2 offers already made.

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 13:24

He has emailed to decline my offer but I can still purchase with cash, so I want to be sure it fits my needs before committing:

Hi,

I am still interested and can do cash - can you forward some pictures of the rear of the van so I can show Bruno to ensure he likes it

I am convinced he doesnt like my current van and this is why he has torn the insides up so badly

I need a larger van since he will be sharing it with the jack russell from number 20 and the pups when they are born

Regards,

Danny

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Posted By: Reverend
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 18:55

Brilliant!

Posted By: Petehelmet
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 19:08

I Fucking love this thread!!!!!!!!!

Please give more..

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Posted By: Reverend
Date Posted: 18 Nov 09 at 20:06

Tony M wrote:

...the very reverend minister of the Kuntuku Church...The Very Reverend Mpwengay Ksanga

Hey, I'M the only Reverend round here...cor, the cheek of it!!

Posted By: traversd
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 13:13

Howling.... Thumbs Up

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 21:20

Ok, had another email with some pictures, one of which showed it was a kombi

Heres the reply:

Hi Matt,

Thank you for the pictures - It is exactly what I require and Bruno literally soiled himself when he saw them

Will the rear seats be included with the vehicle? Are they easy to remove?

I added additional seats to rear of my current van but it was very tight when all five seats were fitted and Bruno was awfully cramped at night - sometimes it took both my wife and I to push the door closed once he was in

There were times when I thought I could see the imprint of a seat in his side the next day - we decieded this was not ideal and a larger vehicle was required

Is your price negotiable at all as no one is offering as much for my van as I had hoped - I am starting to think it is not as desirable as I first thought although I have had a couple of solid offers but one wants to part exchange for an inferior van which I am not interested in

Regards,

Danny

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Posted By: mozicheek
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 21:48

I've come across at least 3 or 4 of these scams to be honest you'd have to be pretty thick to fall for it! assholes..... LOL

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 21:53

mozicheek wrote:

I've come across at least 3 or 4 of these scams to be honest you'd have to be pretty thick to fall for it! assholes..... LOL

That is the tip of the iceberg - this is big business

But you`re right - it would necessitate being pretty thick to fall for them

As said earlier in the thread, some people must or else they would give up.........

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Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 23:18

Another reply - I`m beginning to wonder how long I can string this cabbage along

Hi Matt,

Fair enough

Both Bruno and I agree that it is an excellent vehicle and the price is good - Brunos tail has not stopped wagging all evening!

How do I go about completing payment?

Should I just post you the cash and you can organise the shipping details with Air Cargo Express CDS?

Regards,

Danny

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Posted By: andycapandy
Date Posted: 19 Nov 09 at 23:39

Bet you get a fast reply to that one

Just spotted a van i had for sale about 3 months back turn up on ebay at half the price i sold it for, using my pics and discription.

It was dead easy to tell it was my write up as the spelling was wrong

Keep up the good work

Posted By: GravelMonkey
Date Posted: 21 Nov 09 at 23:14

first topic i read on this forum and im pissing myself with laughter.....

good work, please let us know the following onslaught outcome.

Posted By: energysolutions
Date Posted: 21 Nov 09 at 23:54

I got yet another email from "Matt" directing me to forward my details so he can begin the shipping process with "Aircargo Express CDS" as they are "secured and insured"

My reply to this was:

HI Matt,

Sorry for the slow reply

We have been very busy as Bruno has contracted swine flu - its hard to believe so much bum fluid can come out of one dog

On a positive note it did show up the areas on the rear doors on my old van that werent sealing correctly

Anyway he is now on the sofa with some Tamiflu on board and he`s looking sharper already

Are you sure we can trust these "Aircargo Express" people? What if they go bust or run off with your money? There are an awful lot of dishonest people out there

I would feel happier posting the cash directly to you but if you are sure this is the best way then I will forward my details

Regards,

Danny

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Posted By: andycapandy
Date Posted: 22 Nov 09 at 00:27

energysolutions wrote:

I got yet another email from "Matt" directing me to forward my details so he can begin the shipping process with "Aircargo Express CDS" as they are "secured and insured"

My reply to this was:

HI Matt,

Sorry for the slow reply

We have been very busy as Bruno has contracted swine flu - its hard to believe so much bum fluid can come out of one dog

On a positive note it did show up the areas on the rear doors on my old van that werent sealing correctly

Anyway he is now on the sofa with some Tamiflu on board and he`s looking sharper already

Are you sure we can trust these "Aircargo Express" people? What if they go bust or run off with your money? There are an awful lot of dishonest people out there

I would feel happier posting the cash directly to you but if you are sure this is the best way then I will forward my details

Regards,

Danny

Very good reply

Please keep us updated

Cheers Andy

Posted By: Vdub_heaven
Date Posted: 22 Nov 09 at 02:23

1st class!!!!!

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