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Topic: doka demountable build
Posted By: rowlesy
Subject: doka demountable build
Date Posted: 10 Oct 09 at 19:31
well ive toy'd with the idea of a caravan and even thought of just getting a big drive away awning but to be fair i cant do it! i aint selling the doka and the westy - well you can sleep in it and thats about it really! the doka is a part hauler junk remover fucking cool looking truck (if i do say so myself!) and seats four comfortably so its a car with a big boot..........kindaBig smile
 
so came up with the demountable camper! good idea but have you ever seen a nice one? kin expensive too! why they have to be 2 foot wider and longer than the thing there sat on is beyond me?Confusedso i was sat in the unit on day after a google images session and sketched out a rough idea of what i wanted then re drew it about five times to get all the dimentions and lastly a scale drawing with my magic rule (from work of course!) so i can work out lenths and quantities of steel! easy! yes you did read right steel! lego for men!LOL woods good but i can get me walls  floor and roof about 28mm thick and save room (obviously not 28mm thick steel!)
 
so criteria........................
 
must not be wider or longer than the load bed
must not be too tall
must not have a luton that reaches the front of the bus!LOL
must not be white or cream!
 
so 1900 long x 1800 wide x 1500 tall with a 700 x 500 long luton on the front simples!
 
2 benches (storage under seats) running down the lenth with a table dropping down to fill the walkway luton open so the missus can stuff her crap up there! 2 cupboards at the back in the top for stuff mebe? and cooker stowed out the way cos i hate the smell of grease in me van (cooking outside in the awning/tarp cover!) 12v linked to doka 240 hookup and i wouldnt mind a inverter or a nice quiet generator but we'll see.......................
 
steel frame work wont take long as its piss easy getting all the rest of the stuff will take the time! oh and money i spose
 
if you wana add your 2 pennies worth feel free! ideas from fresh eyes always help! dont expect this to happen overnite! debut outing isnt until bustypes next year so no rush!!
 
steel has cost me £78 external covering is priced at £263 ive just won some landy sliding windows for £52 and i'm searching for one of them big huge skylites but there not cheap!!
 
heres me drawing im working from
 
 
as you'd expect it will change!
 
welded a leg and got the base done but forgot camera! dick!! so you'll have to wait til tommorow!
 


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Posted By: rob64981
Date Posted: 10 Oct 09 at 19:50
Will be keeping an eye on this thread!

Please try and keep it up to date.

Rob


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Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 10 Oct 09 at 20:13
Good luck with the project. Have you worked out its finished weight? How you going to do the de-mounting bit?
 


Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 10 Oct 09 at 20:41
wahheeyyyy!!!   been waiting for this one marra...  

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 16:03
rob - pics will be up when there done!
 
sync - weight will be checked when finished on a weigh bridge cant go wrong then can i!
 
hutch - just remember i aint finished the doka yet and thats almost been 10 months!LOL
 
trying to find batteries for camera as i cant find charger!!!


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 16:42
so then left it like this last night .......... built the base useing 50x50 box at the ends and across the mid section and 25 x 25 everywhere else. 50's used so i can slot in 4 legs at each corner for mounting and demounting
 
 
me leg.......... only done one and thats comeing apart again as its gone stiff ooo-eer!Embarrassed theres a chunky bolt at the bottom with 150mm of travel and all-thread inside with another 350mm of travel so i recon it'll come out the way enough! there will be base plates for the legs to sit on so as to spread the load!
 
 
so your looking at the front now with side bars in place and head board support
 
 
round the back now with the door frame being fitted
 
 
around the front again and the top section is fitted and the luton has been formed! that luton took ages as i had to measure and cut all the sections as i dont want open corners and its gunna be welded around all four sides for strength any sections left open will be capped (apart from leg apetures which will have flaps covering them to try and keep the elements out)
 
 
i've got to ad bars across the roof but didnt take sheet sizes with me so you can bet i'd of only put em in the wrong place! and i've got to ad some more uprights in the side/top when i get my windows. i was gunna take dimentions off becs landy but then thought if there different i'll have to cut em back out so left em for the time being!
 
i think you'll get a better understanding of the layout once the sheets are on? and i wont be getting them for a couple of weeks! boooo! - you'll be able to see where stuff will go! and hopefully next week i'll have finished me welding and have it on the back of the doka to see how gay its gunna look!LOL


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Posted By: Microscopia
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 17:00

The frame looks great - the problem will be sealing the sheet edges! Are you using a single sheet ally top? If so allow enough width to roll the joints, or lap over the sides if you're using a rivet/sealant joint, and plan your corner joints out carefully (measure twice - cut once) - if not you'll end up wasting expensive sheet material or worse still having the typical caravan curse - dampness!  Wink

Best of luck!


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 17:06
Originally posted by Microscopia Microscopia wrote:

The frame looks great - the problem will be sealing the sheet edges! Are you using a single sheet ally top? If so allow enough width to roll the joints, or lap over the sides if you're using a rivet/sealant joint, and plan your corner joints out carefully (measure twice - cut once) - if not you'll end up wasting expensive sheet material or worse still having the typical caravan curse - dampness!  Wink

Best of luck!
 
cheers fella! all the edges will be overlapped an sealed before and after there capped! there will be capping all the way round the outside and a rubbing strip (kinda) along the waistline? gunna try to keep riviting down to as little as possible as you always get the odd one that lets water in!


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Posted By: T3ADICT
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 17:20

is it designed to fit inside the gates?

how far accros the cab will the luton go?
when you finish this one can i have one in ally?....lol


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 17:54
gates have to come off so i can use the hinge pins to stop it falling off! luton goes over rear doors only - pretty much smack bang in the middle of the cab
 
havent got a tig set yet so i'll let you know on that one! anyway thought you were wandering off? wont wana be inside with all that sun!


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Posted By: baron
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 18:04
Impressive work that. Clap 

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Posted By: hobbit
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 18:16
Hats off to you fellaThumbs Up
 
Wish I had a garage like yoursThumbs Up


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 18:23
cheers guys! ring round your local farmers to ask if they have a spare barn! £20 pw  mine!

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Posted By: ..lee..
Date Posted: 11 Oct 09 at 21:34
keep the pics coming. looks like this will be a cracking thread.
 
good on yaThumbs Up


Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 12 Oct 09 at 18:57
cheers kids!
 
at work today as you do like i realised i havent put the 3 lower uprights where the hinge-pins will go so they've gotta come off and moved about! it'll only split me side panels! see another reason fer not welding it yet!Wink


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Posted By: Cliffbase
Date Posted: 12 Oct 09 at 20:13
Thats looking very good. Keep the design dimensions, i may be chatting you up for them to do the same!

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Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 10:02
Great Barn, Well done on having ago at what most people would be scared off.
No doubt it will be strong but it is looking  heavy, does it need to be that strong?
Also IMO the leg adjustments, raising/lowering, may need some re-thinking. Very difficult to lift it with the bolts on the floor & won't there be alot of ground resistance to you turning them? Or am I missing the point on how you are going to lift it up & off?
 


Posted By: regthewedge
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 12:22
top job, i'll deffo be watching this oneThumbs Up

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 18:16
Originally posted by Syncost Alot. Syncost Alot. wrote:

Great Barn, Well done on having ago at what most people would be scared off.
No doubt it will be strong but it is looking  heavy, does it need to be that strong?
Also IMO the leg adjustments, raising/lowering, may need some re-thinking. Very difficult to lift it with the bolts on the floor & won't there be alot of ground resistance to you turning them? Or am I missing the point on how you are going to lift it up & off?
 
 
belive it or not its not too heavy at the moment! and the jacks - well its just an initial thought at the moment and the first and only one is getting cut back apart as its getting stiff to turn! bottom bolt will have a bar off it to rotate it and be sat loose in a metal cup attached to a flat plate, that will be just for getting extra depth if need be! main way of raising it will be the top section but that could all change as i'm thinking of another plan!


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 18:28
i was thiking about taking a grp mould of a caravelle or van and making a rear secton for a crewy so that when fitted with windows it would look like a normal van or just making canopys for em
bloody good job you've done will be watching for ideas


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 18:57
Originally posted by vw venom vw venom wrote:

i was thiking about taking a grp mould of a caravelle or van and making a rear secton for a crewy so that when fitted with windows it would look like a normal van or just making canopys for em
bloody good job you've done will be watching for ideas
 
go for it mate! plenty of people want the rear canopys for the doka's and there not exactly readily available! if you have the kit to do it,it could be a good earner!


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 20:04
im on the case guv but will be doing the low (cab height)lockable version first
would be  good to know whos interested?pm me
back to the thread how are you going to clad the sides maybe i could help



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Posted By: busbuddy
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 20:32
good work, you could have used half that amount of metal though and it would still have been strong enough to demount
 
like the idea of moulding the outside rather than using sheet  Big smile
 
 
 


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Posted By: buz
Date Posted: 13 Oct 09 at 20:46
hey, great work on the frame, looks a cracking job,  i have built a few horseboxes like this and have made s*** loads of mistakes along the way , if you intend to cover it in aluminium use at least 1.5mm thick , this will give you a nice coachbuilt finish, and use double sided tape between the steel frame and the alloy, this helps to stop the aluminium from rotting due to dissimilar metals.
     Also if you want to stick  with the bolts for raising and lowering and have problems with the bolts you have now, you could use square or acme threaded bolts ( like on a jack ) as these dont lock up under weight ( i have some somewhere, if you want  them pm me ).
   And just want to stick my nose in once more ( dont worry , i get on my own nerves ) i see you have a good quality butters welder, if you want to weld ally , you could buy a spool gun or even stick a teflon liner in your euro torch, use  1mm wire , and pure argon, its nowhere near as good as the stack of dimes finish you get with tig but its structurally strong .
   i dont know where abouts you are but i am in the midlands and if you want the use of a guillotine and pressbrake  to fab your outer skin you are more than welcome


Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 09:04
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

Originally posted by Syncost Alot. Syncost Alot. wrote:

Great Barn, Well done on having ago at what most people would be scared off.
No doubt it will be strong but it is looking  heavy, does it need to be that strong?
Also IMO the leg adjustments, raising/lowering, may need some re-thinking. Very difficult to lift it with the bolts on the floor & won't there be alot of ground resistance to you turning them? Or am I missing the point on how you are going to lift it up & off?
 
 
belive it or not its not too heavy at the moment! and the jacks - well its just an initial thought at the moment and the first and only one is getting cut back apart as its getting stiff to turn! bottom bolt will have a bar off it to rotate it and be sat loose in a metal cup attached to a flat plate, that will be just for getting extra depth if need be! main way of raising it will be the top section but that could all change as i'm thinking of another plan!
 
Yeah, How about some old light weight achros (sp?) You know the things that hold up ceilings & walls. Should be able to find some cheap & would work well in adjustment & lifting.


Posted By: max5765
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 10:38
Hi Rowlesy, That looks the dogs Clap. On my travels around the UK I have visited many coachbuilt motorhome builders in the UK when they get to the skeleton stage they then go about the next stages arse about face. First they'll trim the interior with ply, then run and position all cable, sockets, lights, interior fittings etc etc, then insulate everything and then clad the exterior. they don't seem to rivit anything anymore they all use white Single cab pick up Flex, this sticks like shit to a blanket and is water tight (if put on correctly). Its the same stuff windscreen fitters use to bond windscreens in. They also seem to use either a 2/3mm ply or ally sheet with a very thin GRP overlay stuck to it to give that smooth finish. Please don't think I'm trying to teach you anything, just my suggestions for an easier life.
Check out the caravan breakers on the net you should get a decent roof vent and even some nice plastic double glazed windows, they are lighter than glass sllders. You may even pick up some cupboards etc that you could modify. good luck with everything and keep us all updated.Clap


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Posted By: markpark
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 13:51
Swear filter strikes again S I K A flex. Genius LOL

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Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 18:22





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Posted By: ZUB
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 18:27
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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 18:43
yeah thats  a cool ride id like to see one in a town center

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 19:04
buz - ive got acess to gillys press's folders mig tig arc plasma we have it in my other workshop (read work!) thanks for the offer! torch kit has been looked at in the past but very rarely use it so just use work kit!
 
sync - acro's are a bit excessive i recon! thinking of modding 4x t3 oe jacks for the legs thinking if they can pick up a t3 4 will support my demount!
 
max - exterior panels are plastic coated steel (same as cladding but not pressed up) at the moment they'll be bonded as much as poss then fixed in with the cappings. this will prob get done before the interior just because of logistics really
 
been looking into "wallboard" as thats veneared an about 3 mm thick and all i can find thin in b&q and such is 6mm hard board? look nice inside wont it?
 
and last but not least venom any help with the cladding or panels would be good! i'm set on one course at the moment as theres not many other solutions round here? 


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 14 Oct 09 at 19:18
yeah no worries
you need to clad it with ply  and sand  and fill to shape ,then this can be used as a plug to make a mould from ,in your case a split mould to make a single shell casing like on new coachbuilds
it will take time but you can make more (sell em or if yours gets damaged)
give me a call number pm'ed to you


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 17 Oct 09 at 17:07
todays messing gives me this
 
 
put uprights and supports for windows in and moved bottom up rights so there in line with the hinge pins
 
 
 
cut out the middle section of 50 and replaced with 25 mainly coz it was too high and i would of had to pack the floor up and the other reason was it was just covering the hatch for the engine!
 
 
 
can still open sunroof - might cause some sort of vortex or summat but we'll see!
 
 
view from rear door
 
rear view
 
 
luton overhang
 
 
front and side
 
 
note.... not longer or wider!
 
feels quite large inside at the moment but once the panneling is on i recon it'll be quite compact and beezue!
 
 
wanted four bilsen t3 jacks!!!
 
 


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 17 Oct 09 at 19:03
dude looks cool ,i pick  my doka up on tuesday cant wait ,,and canopy
have you got a sketch of what you want it to finally look like?is it gonna be that square on the rear?


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 17 Oct 09 at 19:39

like this but not overhanging?


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 08:59
pretty much as its sat at the mo is how it gets covered! maybe find a window for the door!

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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 09:45
why dont you get a old caravan and strip it for the sides?and roof cladding

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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 10:20
Just an idea, but rather than jack the demount off the DOKA, why not have fixed legs with slight adjustment as originally planned - with threaded inserts?
Then. jack the truck up, drop the legs and then lower the jacks?

I wouldnt trust 4 of those jacks to hold all that up in the air, especially considering how they are holding a T3 with 3 wheels on the ground, and bearing in mind the height theyre going to be working at I dont think they'll be beefy enough not to twist in the slightest wind.


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Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 10:25
^^^  I agree..  I can't be the only one who has had a T3 roll off one jack !

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Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 10:29
how about having the legs as a fixed height slide out secured with dowels or those things they use on landrover tailgates/trailer tailgates...

then have an electric jack under the rear towbar mount..  jack the rear of the doka up, drop the legs, lower truck, drive off

something like a tougher version of this ??

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Posted By: Microscopia
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 12:06
Originally posted by mrhutch mrhutch wrote:

how about having the legs as a fixed height slide out secured with dowels or those things they use on landrover tailgates/trailer tailgates...
 
Then use caravan steadies at the end of each leg instead of jacking the vehicle - easy to fit and easy to use - they will also help levelling off the demount on rough or sloping ground!  Just a thought!  Big smile

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 18:43
then i'll have four legs sticking out of the demount? at the moment i can (geussing here) put them as far away from the sides so i can get under at an angle cos its gunna get dumped in the corner of the unit?
the jacks will be sat inside box with a slot so the action still works
micro tell me what you mean by "steadies"


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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 18:57
they dont have to be permanently attached though?
I just cant see how you can give any strength to the point where the arm comes ouut of the jack to stop it twisting. Or in fact the arm itself.
Theyre bad enough at a couple of ft long, at (over) twice the length the leverage on that point is going to be immense. The wind will only need to push the demount an inch forward or back and it'll be on the floor


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 19:10
look at octoberfest pics

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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 19:23


yeah, but those are a lot beefier than T3 jacks, they also have 2 mounts to prevent twisting.

It might be fine, but I wouldnt trust a T3 jack to keep one corner of a T3 6" off the floor for longer than 5 minutes, never mind for of them to hold something at that height.


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Posted By: jason k
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 19:28
giffers tischers legs are like scaffold tubes with locking pins

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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 18 Oct 09 at 19:29
thanks bud coulnt post the pic
i think those jacks would be alot safer


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Posted By: Microscopia
Date Posted: 19 Oct 09 at 11:38
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

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micro tell me what you mean by "steadies"
 
http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/chassis/corner_steadies/Al-ko_Corner_steadies.aspx - http://www.leisureshopdirect.com/caravan/chassis/corner_steadies/Al-ko_Corner_steadies.aspx # http://www.speedjack.co.uk/ -
 
As mrhutch said,  use some slot-in pegged legs: then I thought attach some of these steadies at the feet which will give enough lift to drive your van out, then just drop the demount back onto its legs. These steadies are quick acting, they're not really supposed to be used as a jack though, so you would have to check their strength against the gross weight of your demount, required just for the lift and drop of the demount!. You could make a stronger version - they're easy enough to make yourself  - just a glorified type of scissor jack (could use 4 of those of course - scissors jacks are easy enough to pick up cheap!)  You can also use them to level the demount on rough ground by adjusting each corner and chocking up under each foot when happy - then wind the steadies/scissors jacks back out of the way when done!


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 19 Oct 09 at 17:29

worm thread on your "steadies" are 580/680mm long so attaching them to the bottom of my legs 50mm wide would need some wierd stuff welded on the bottom to accomodate them and sideways movement would see it on the floor in no-time? ive got one on me trailer as a quick fix when the jocky wheel collapsed!

jase is giffers ticher whats pictured? theres a lad round by me (aint seen him for a while tho?) got a singlecab and one of them too so might go and see him to be nosey!



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Posted By: mjjm
Date Posted: 19 Oct 09 at 18:06
Just read through this and great job you're doing so far. Just a thought, but, if you had static legs that would fit to the demountable then: pair of yellow? levelling chocks, reverse van up onto, fix legs, drive van off forwards and down at same time? Just an idea and it seems to work in my little head. Good luck
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Posted By: jason k
Date Posted: 19 Oct 09 at 22:16
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

worm thread on your "steadies" are 580/680mm long so attaching them to the bottom of my legs 50mm wide would need some wierd stuff welded on the bottom to accomodate them and sideways movement would see it on the floor in no-time? ive got one on me trailer as a quick fix when the jocky wheel collapsed!

jase is giffers ticher whats pictured? theres a lad round by me (aint seen him for a while tho?) got a singlecab and one of them too so might go and see him to be nosey!

no its not. i dont think theres a pic of it up here anywhere either..........
 
 
 
will have a root about to see if i can find one.....


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Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 00:11
giffers prolly got it stashed somewhere in wales, Yorkshire style... ask mrs giffer if she even knows about it !..




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Posted By: nic
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 09:18
how about airbags on the pickup ? drive into position, raise the lot on bags, lower the legs, lower the pickup and drive away - simples Tongue


Posted By: nic
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 09:20
or how about airbags between the demountable and the pickup to create the clearance ? 


Posted By: Microscopia
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 14:59
Or better still an hgv 5th wheel under the demount! Big smile

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Posted By: shapey
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 17:21
Originally posted by nic nic wrote:

or how about airbags between the demountable and the pickup to create the clearance ? 

i was thinking something along those lines might work... it'd be a lot quicker than winding worm threads in on each corner...

pump it up - slot the legs in - deflate - drive out!


Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 17:49
Originally posted by mrhutch mrhutch wrote:

giffers prolly got it stashed somewhere in wales, Yorkshire style... ask mrs giffer if she even knows about it !..




LOL


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 18:34
the one pictured is meladdo's from round my way! saw it today! (well the roof anyway)
 
have you lot been on something lateley?LOL airbags and yellow chocks? i'm keeping it real innit!(cheap!) cost me a fortune that will! hydraulics is where its at! i can bounce the thing of the back!
could even fit a tipper and a winch to get it on and off!


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Posted By: rogerthecat
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 19:41
Think I have the answer.
A small set of rockets, one on each leg.
But before ignition, you could tether each leg using some steel wire rope and a couple of ground anchors per leg.
That should stop it disappearing over the horizon.
Don't forget to make all the tethers the same length or it may topple over.
I would also suggest only about a foot in length, too long and it may interfere with local air traffic.
So -pull up, deploy anchors and tethers, countdown to lift off, ignite rockets, demountable rises, you drive out.
The demountable deploys a drogue parachute that pulls out the main chutes and it floats down softly onto the grass.
Repack the chute, refuel the rockets and you are set for reversing the process when you are ready to go home.
Simples.


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 20:16
its getting worseLOL

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Posted By: regthewedge
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 20:43
could you not teach the demountable to levetate (david blaine stylie) and drive off?LOL

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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 20:48
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

could even fit a tipper and a winch to get it on and off!




no need to winch it off, just tip it and let it sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide


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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 20:51
Originally posted by rogerthecat rogerthecat wrote:

Think I have the answer.
A small set of rockets, one on each leg.
But before ignition, you could tether each leg using some steel wire rope and a couple of ground anchors per leg.
That should stop it disappearing over the horizon.
Don't forget to make all the tethers the same length or it may topple over.
I would also suggest only about a foot in length, too long and it may interfere with local air traffic.
So -pull up, deploy anchors and tethers, countdown to lift off, ignite rockets, demountable rises, you drive out.
The demountable deploys a drogue parachute that pulls out the main chutes and it floats down softly onto the grass.
Repack the chute, refuel the rockets and you are set for reversing the process when you are ready to go home.
Simples.


Edited due to shite speeling




Thats crazy.

The smoke from the rockets would upset other campers you inconsiderate f**k
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Posted By: rogerthecat
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 20:55
Originally posted by Tee3 Tee3 wrote:

The smoke from the rockets would upset other campers you inconsiderate f**k Angry


Where the fook have you been living the last few years, have you not heard of smokeless fuel. Approve


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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 21:30
We havnt got it "up North" yet. You Southerners get all the new stuff first.
Tongue


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Posted By: rogerthecat
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 21:34
Uddersfelt is smokeless, we can still burn coal, logs and strangers in wickermen out here Tongue

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Posted By: mr_clarkson
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 22:04
you could fit a hiab and crane it off ;)
 
in seriousness though........
why not have some kind of wind up (maybe scissor jack) atached to the base of the demount,(but  built in so they are hidden, just a hole with gromet to put handle in to wind up n down on the side) when wound in they dont protude from the base, then wind jacks up wich will jack it up off the bed of doka, then pull legs out (that are stored underneath the base ;) ) slot them in , then wind jacks back down and drive off.
 
i guess there would have to be 1 in each corner so you would loose a small square of each corner from inside, but it wouldnt be to much, you would have to weld a small aqare frame to house each one to.
 
i hope you understand what i am getting at, i know exactly how i would do it and how it would work, but not to good at getting it over in writing.
 
jon
 
p.s. great looking build so far, i shall watch with interest.
 
 


Posted By: Full Throttle
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 23:13
It's not rocket science roger, have you not heard the story about the boy and the bus stuck under the bridge.
 
Drop the legs then let some air out the tires. Wink


Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 23:15
^^^  genius!

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Posted By: T3ADICT
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 01:45
still think jave up the back of the crew cab .. drop the legs.. wind down the jacks on the crew cab and your sorted..


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Posted By: shapey
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 10:53
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

 
...have you lot been on something lateley?LOL airbags and yellow chocks? i'm keeping it real innit!(cheap!) cost me a fortune that will!...

where's your sense of ingenuity? just make your own airbag system...

all you need is a foot pump, some hosepipe, and a few old hot water bottles! Wink LOL


Posted By: T3ADICT
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 12:50
SPACE HOPPERS....... Thats what you need.. stick a valve on them then wack them under the truck with an air line to one of those cigi lighter pumps.
 
plus then after you can use them as transport round the site.


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Posted By: westbay
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 14:05
 ....how about built-in air rams ( ala BTCC) one at each corner with the compressor in the locker .....Ermm


Posted By: DavidPallister
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 14:55
How about some heavy duty ratchet straps around the rear trailing arms?  Pull up, fit the legs, ratchet the rear of the DOKA down, drive out, release straps.....pick severed hands up off the floor.....Big smile
 
Dave


Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 19:01
twats the lot of yer!LOL
 
easyest way is obviously marbles on the bed and  strap it to a tree whence arriving then gentley edge forward until its off!  easy! you guys create work for me!Wink


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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 20:29
Daft idea. Who the hell wants to camp near a tree? Think of the midges



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Posted By: rogerthecat
Date Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 20:45
Originally posted by rowlesy rowlesy wrote:

twats the lot of yer!LOL


Doesn't it piss you off when you are trying to innovate and idiots keep suggesting stupid ideas - marbles indeed...



























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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 22 Oct 09 at 18:51
LOL

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Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 22 Oct 09 at 20:53
FFS buy a caravan! Wink
What-ever option you go for, make sure you video first test launch!! LOL


Posted By: ZUB
Date Posted: 22 Oct 09 at 21:54
How about using the bottom 16-18inches of 4 Acro Props. Weld to the legs.....adjust all you like then.  

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Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 23 Oct 09 at 09:05
Suggested that, please pay more attention! OP thought that'd be too easy!!  Tongue
(now what are the reg's for storing rocket fuel?)


Posted By: ZUB
Date Posted: 23 Oct 09 at 18:38
Originally posted by Syncost Alot. Syncost Alot. wrote:

Suggested that, please pay more attention! OP thought that'd be too easy!!  Tongue
(now what are the reg's for storing rocket fuel?)
 
Oops sorry LOL
 
Ok, how about buying a Honda Rascal camper and park it on the back, you'd just need ramps then Wink  


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 23 Oct 09 at 18:39
Originally posted by Syncost Alot. Syncost Alot. wrote:

FFS buy a caravan! Wink
What-ever option you go for, make sure you video first test launch!! LOL
 
you tryin to justify your cool purchase there matey?Wink  LOL
 
 
i'm playing with the original plan tommorrow so we'll se eh? might try some bronze bushes or summat?


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Posted By: Tee3
Date Posted: 23 Oct 09 at 18:45
Originally posted by ZUB ZUB wrote:

 
Oops sorry LOL
 
Ok, how about buying a Honda Rascal camper and park it on the back, you'd just need ramps then Wink  


now thats what I call a demountable



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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 25 Oct 09 at 16:29
cut the top off me jack and i had covered it in splatter when i welded the cap on so cleaned her up and re welded it and jobs a good-un! guna weld a plate to it so i can fix it to the base without any chance of it sliding out accidentally!
 
 
welded lugs around the base so i can fix me floor to it
 
 
 
and fitted the minge Wink to hold up rear door!
 
 
oh and none doka related but fun all the same! -  messed with the golf!
 


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Posted By: ..lee..
Date Posted: 25 Oct 09 at 21:07
best car i`ve ever owned mk2 golf gti..............................fact.
 
 
 
 
vans not included.Wink


Posted By: Duxforddubz
Date Posted: 26 Oct 09 at 14:41
 Tidy work there rowlesy, you certainly crack on with your projects, good looking mk2 as well, keep up the good work, what are you going to cover the camper with?


Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 26 Oct 09 at 18:13
lee ....  best ever golf made to date? - mk2 gti 16v fact!Big smile
curt .... primer paint and plastic coated leathergrain sheets! prob get them over xmas hol hopefully so i've got a week or two to fit in one hit!
clean up the weekend then degrease then prime and paint and finish the other 3 jacks while the paints drying!


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Posted By: Nugget
Date Posted: 26 Oct 09 at 20:53
Agreed Mk2's rock and are the best but Big Bumper 8 valves are where its at, here's a pic of my old baby:
 
 
 
 
Gone but not forgotten, boy I miss that car.


Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 31 Oct 09 at 16:59
spent pretty much all day linishing the welds flat on the outside and inside faces then degreasing then two coats of red oxide! bastard job! LOL
 
 
three legs coming up.................................................................


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 07 Nov 09 at 17:08
all the legs are done now!
 
 
fitted a bolt-to-the-demount bracket to stop the swaying !
 
 
thats what 200mm looks like from the inside of the box to the face of the demount
 
 
view from the rear
 
 
and rear view! stevie wonder could back under there without hitting the legs! LOL 200mm clearance either side!


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Posted By: andy e
Date Posted: 07 Nov 09 at 17:16
Very impressive mate.
 
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Posted By: rogerthecat
Date Posted: 07 Nov 09 at 17:17
Why doesn't my welding look as neat as yours?
Love the project, some really neat ideas.
Keep the pics coming, inspirational stuff.


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 07 Nov 09 at 17:21
cheers guys! keep at it roger! ive been welding since i left school what 15 years ago! should be half decent by now!Embarrassed

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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 07 Nov 09 at 17:23
 
ooooh! nearly forgot this one! this is what the legs sit in and i may even make up some adaptors to fix some wheels on to aide with mounting the beast! oo-err!"


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Posted By: Skeeb
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 19:17
Good work chap !!!   cant wait to see the next lot of pics !!!   Smile

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Posted By: T3ADICT
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 23:32
is that some banded steels i see up against the wall??

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Posted By: mrhutch
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 23:37
Originally posted by T3ADICT T3ADICT wrote:

is that some banded steels i see up against the wall??

do you miss a trick?  

Wink

first poor martyns (bus boy) seams now rowleys banded....  


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Posted By: T3ADICT
Date Posted: 13 Nov 09 at 23:51
cant help it... ive done a fair bit of painting AND im  total wheel junky..
saying that though ive sold lots off.


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Posted By: rowlesy
Date Posted: 14 Nov 09 at 08:16
yeah for the golf but.................................keep changing my mind!

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