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Topic: Westie Pop Top Conversion
Posted By: james72
Subject: Westie Pop Top Conversion
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 21:01
I got busy with the jig saw todayWacko and started my mosaik conversion.
 
Got the roof, luggage tray and mosaik bits back from the paint shop last week,  I've been at the the metal work with a wire brush on the end of a drill,  it all came up lovely. Painted up the luggage strap brackets, replaced all the nuts and bolts with shiny new ones, stuck on a new set of rubbers and some Brickwerks Westfalia stickers and it looks brand spankersSmile
 
 
 
 
When I picked up the frame and bed from Lance,  he and I marked the roof with his jig.
 
I cust small hole first so I could remove 3 headling brace poles and then cut a hole on the headling so I could work from inside the van
 
 
  
 
Shit me self at this point!
 
 
 
Then cut the full size hole, I did it a bit at a time as didn't want to cut it to big, offering up the frame to get it spot.
 
 
I'm going fit the luggage rack and roof hinges before I rivet the frame in place, so I can sort the headling when fitting the frame.
 
Should be interesting trying to bolt up the hingesConfused I've Pulled the headling down at the rear but theres a lot of metal in the way.   If you've done this before how did you get on ?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Posted By: VeeDunk
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 21:58
Mate,
 
Looks like you have been working hard...me and my brother-in-law fitted a Westy roof to his Caravelle earlier this year. We didn't use bolts and nuts for the hinges, we used great big self-cutting/drilling hex head bolts, I think they are made by Hilti. Anyway, they are great and work really well, saved us taking the headlining down, just drilled a pilot hole and then screwed them in, there is plenty of steel for them to grip.
 
Also, it may be worth screwing the ali frame down, as you will need to lift it back up again to fit the canvas...just a thought??
 
Good luck with the rest of it.
 
Duncan


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 22:03
hi dude looks fantastic,ive made my bed in blue,will post pics of bluestar /weststar when ive got everything done,but that looks great,
as for hinges we pulled down a small section with pliers ,just enough to slot the metal bars in and loctite them in place giz a call if you need info lance 01985851232


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 22:23
Duncan
 
Those Hilti bolts sound interesting certainly would make it alot easier,  as you say there is plently of metal for them to grip into.
 
Thats not the frame that holds the canvas down mate, thats much bigger and sits on the roof fixed down with self tappers.


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 22:24
Originally posted by vw venom vw venom wrote:

hi dude looks fantastic,ive made my bed in blue,will post pics of bluestar /weststar when ive got everything done,but that looks great,
as for hinges we pulled down a small section with pliers ,just enough to slot the metal bars in and loctite them in place giz a call if you need info lance 01985851232
 
Alright  Lance,  get on and finish it thenSmile


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 10 Sep 08 at 23:18
old pic but roofs on now
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/lcoldwe/DSCF0335.jpg
www.vwelevation.com


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 12 Sep 08 at 17:39

I've got the roof on now,  I decided to make up some brackets that I could slide into the gap below the hinges using the waist steel from the roof, they aint pretty and my welding is frankly shiteEmbarrassed but the worked well. It was fiddley as feck lining them but managed it in the end.  The headlining is back up and all is goodSmile

 
 
 


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 15 Sep 08 at 10:14
Nearly finshedSmile just got to trim up the headlining and fit the new canvasConfused
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 15 Sep 08 at 11:34
awesome fella 


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 16 Sep 08 at 13:32
Finished it Smile just need to swap the beige rubber trim for some black stuff and get a mattress for the front section of the bed. 
 
Lance's mosaik repro works really well.  I'm well happy with the end result. 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: VeeDunk
Date Posted: 16 Sep 08 at 16:59
Looks a great job mate, well doneWink


Posted By: plonker
Date Posted: 17 Sep 08 at 22:53
nice. can you come round and fit my canvas now. thanks for advice on various different roof bunks


Posted By: jj-joker
Date Posted: 17 Sep 08 at 23:08
Great thread - some nice work there (like the colour too). Mind if I ask which canvas you've used? Seems to be varying price levels out there and interested in quality diffs. etc.


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 17 Sep 08 at 23:47
Canvas is a from gowesty it's the Acrylic one. I can't compare it to any others as it's the only one I've had,  but I'm very impressed with it, superb quality. I went for based on some other positive comments on here, with £69 import duty, it's a fair bit more than the JK one, but  I'd read some negative comments about the JK canvas. 
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2512&category_id=135&category_parent_id - http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2512&category_id=135&category_parent_id
 


Posted By: jj-joker
Date Posted: 18 Sep 08 at 20:10
Originally posted by Minivtec Minivtec wrote:

Canvas is a from gowesty it's the Acrylic one. I can't compare it to any others as it's the only one I've had,  but I'm very impressed with it, superb quality. I went for based on some other positive comments on here, with £69 import duty, it's a fair bit more than the JK one, but  I'd read some negative comments about the JK canvas. 
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2512&category_id=135&category_parent_id - http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=2512&category_id=135&category_parent_id
 
 
Thanks. Like they always say, quality costs.
 
Cheers, JJ  


Posted By: Robw_z
Date Posted: 19 Sep 08 at 09:28
Where did you get the kit to raise the bed?  I've never seen something like that here in the US.
 
-Rob


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 19 Sep 08 at 17:18
Originally posted by Robw_z Robw_z wrote:

Where did you get the kit to raise the bed?  I've never seen something like that here in the US.
 
-Rob
 
Rob,  I got it from "VW venom"  his name is Lance,  he's reproduced VW's orignal conversion parts,  he's posted on this thread so you can contact him if your interested


Posted By: briansr1
Date Posted: 29 Sep 08 at 19:17
I own an 85 Vanagon.  Where do you order the pop up conversion??

Thanks,
Briansr1


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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 29 Sep 08 at 19:50
hi brian www.vwelevation.com


Posted By: briansr1
Date Posted: 29 Sep 08 at 20:03
Thanks,

I will try to contact them.
Appreeciate your help.

Brian


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Posted By: Baxter
Date Posted: 29 Sep 08 at 22:14
Don't GoWesty's roof canvases come from Gunzle anyway?


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 29 Sep 08 at 22:47
Originally posted by Baxter Baxter wrote:

Don't GoWesty's roof canvases come from Gunzle anyway?
 
They offer a genuine German job,  I think that comes from gunzl, the other hemp, cotton and acrylic ones are their own,  or made for them in the states.


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 30 Sep 08 at 19:00
the best ones over here are from concept sails soon to be concept poptops all mine are being made there and they also have gortex ones to the original pattern


Posted By: peet
Date Posted: 01 Oct 08 at 20:38
Lance how do you trim up the roof lining around the frame? Do you supply that in the kit too? I'll be taking one when I can finally bloomin get down your way!

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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 03 Oct 08 at 10:19
hi peet sorting out a molding for that this weekend,as its needed when changing hightop and holdsworth roof but you can do it like minivtecs  done by using rubber strip,if you can get original side units from a westy they cover everything as well.
like mine
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/lcoldwe/DSCF0335.jpg


Posted By: T3surf
Date Posted: 03 Oct 08 at 11:49
Clap Well done chap! Brave man!

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Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 02 Nov 08 at 16:27
Good job sir. I'm giving this serious thought.


Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 20:15
Well got all the bits together now. Should be having ago at this over the next few weeks. Wish us luck!!


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 20:23
Karl, You want to come and take some measurements,  Will make life a bit easier. 

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Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 20:43
hi james could you forward him those measurements you sent me as ive lost em from the rear weld cheers bud


Posted By: Syncost Alot.
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 22:39
Originally posted by james72 james72 wrote:

Karl, You want to come and take some measurements,  Will make life a bit easier. 
 
Cheers buddy.........Sunday?
While I'm there if you could just bolt my new roof on that would be great!! LOL


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 23:52
i knew we forgot to do something while you were here....ha ha
ill pm you tomorrow ive found measurements and mozaic documents you wanted
you also got pm
cheers bud lance


Posted By: james72
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 19:32
Originally posted by Syncost Alot. Syncost Alot. wrote:

Originally posted by james72 james72 wrote:

Karl, You want to come and take some measurements,  Will make life a bit easier. 
 
Cheers buddy.........Sunday?
While I'm there if you could just bolt my new roof on that would be great!! LOL
 
Sunday's fine, not too early thoughConfused,  give me a call. 


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Posted By: briansr1
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 19:55
Hey fellas,
If you get the chance photos of the project would be fantastic.  I would love to see it done & then plan to do mine.  BTW, how much does it cost to get a roof unit to the States?

Good luck,
Brian


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Posted By: russel at syncronutz
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 20:15
Hi
As to the canvas qualities. 
The go westy canvas is made for them only and is by far the best quality available.They have many different colours and different materials at different prices.
JK canvas:you get whot you pay for.
Gunzels canvas well not nearly as good as go westy.
I have used all 3 and will now only fit the go westy one.
Russel


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 10 Mar 09 at 20:24
what about www.projectpoptops.co.uk
ive used them many a time ,choice of colours,materials,zips,cheapest and the gortex material ones on tradesizes van is 100%waterproof fitting was brilliant,leon the owner is very helpfull






































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Posted By: nicolemp38
Date Posted: 07 Mar 19 at 22:09
I am looking to get this kit myself but not quite sure what VW Venon is. Could you provide a link or a phone number I can call?
Do you possibly have the installation kit and does it have dimensions? Maybe I could try whipping it up myself?


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Posted By: Renaruby
Date Posted: 15 Sep 19 at 15:31
Hi there, 
I’ve read through this thread and found it really fascinating - I‘m in the process of looking to replace my canvas tent. 
I have no intention of doing myself and I’m not at all savvy in that department. 
I’ve seen the photos above and looked at what has been achieved on here. It’s absolutely amazing. 

I’m just started looking at various internet companies that sell the canvas tents, I read where the above one was bought. What I’m struggling with is finding a company that actually fits them.

I remember at camperjam a few years ago, coming across a stall of a guy who fitted the tents. Never took the details then as I was only curious at the time. However, trying to find any company that does it, seems scarce. 

Can anyone recommend websites to look on? Or has an idea of someone who actually fits them. 

Thanks in advance, 
Ruby


Posted By: vw venom
Date Posted: 15 Sep 19 at 19:46
im back sorry give me call to discuss all issues roofing
Lance 07415027552 


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Westfalia Mosaic fitting kits



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