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Topic: Seal Recall for T30
Posted By: AndyTease
Subject: Seal Recall for T30
Date Posted: 15 Apr 08 at 16:25
I was in dealer today sorting out waher problem and they informed me that I will also need to have a engine seal replaced. VW have called  a recall as the seals have been leaking and water and oil has been mixing. My Van was purchased in Aug 2007 brand new so it maybe worth contacting your dealer. I will let you know further information after Tuesday.

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Andy



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Posted By: Onefut
Date Posted: 15 Apr 08 at 19:54
interestin to know which seal
if its the one on the water pump im gonna be well pissed as i just changed the pump


Posted By: AndyTease
Date Posted: 22 Apr 08 at 21:24
Just to let you know, the seal that has been replaced in my van today was the oil coolant seal. Recall has been issued.

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Andy


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 24 Apr 08 at 00:35
Originally posted by AndyTease AndyTease wrote:

Just to let you know, the seal that has been replaced in my van today was the oil coolant seal. Recall has been issued.
 
Hello Andy,
 
Do you know if the seal was the one between between the engine block and the oil cooler, or somewhere else ? 
 
When I got the oil in the coolant in my Oct 2006 build they replaced the oil cooler/engine block seal when they replaced the oil cooler, so I hope I didn't get a dodgy one.
 
If you had the recall Id that would be very helpful to us all (it is typically a 3 or 4 digit alpha and numeric combination like "90D7").


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 24 Apr 08 at 18:13

Yes that would be good to know as Greg says.  That would prove it was actually a recall which it might well not be.

Just to explain for info:  The manufacturers have an agreed code of practice (voluntary) where they will recall vehicles where a fault is found that could directly affect safety.  This means they will contact DVLC so that the owner of every vehicle affected can be notified.  This prompts the recall the number that Greg mentions.  This top level is a true recall and is only ever used when there is a real danger of a fire/brake failure/sudden engine failure/steering failure etc or other things that could cause a serious accident   In fact, some manufacturers have to be virtually shamed into it at times.  Remember the Clio bonnets flying open?  Still not a recall!  My own turbo pipe failure could have got me killed but wasn't the subject of a recall for months although the Oncall VW breakdown guy clearly knew all about it when I rang them.
 
There are several other levels that aren't actually a recall.  Advice to workshops called Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) are just VWs way of keeping the dealers informed of various pitfalls and fixes, and there are also "Campaigns" which is where as vehicles that come into the workshops for servicing etc get checks and updates for various non-saftey related items.   
 
It sounds like the oil cooler seals will fit into this last category.
 
Almost all of these things are engine number/chassis number/componant manufacturer related so may only affect a few vehicles each time.  


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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: AndyTease
Date Posted: 24 Apr 08 at 20:39

Yeah it was the seal between the oil cooler and the engine block. The service manager was saying that customers who had purchased T30 would be getting contacted by letter. I happened to call in to see about washer pump and when they where checked my reg they then informed me that this need to done. T5 TDI could be right it may only affect a few vechiles but they seemed to be contact quite a few customers by all accounts.  



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Andy


Posted By: canda
Date Posted: 25 Apr 08 at 13:05
Just been in to VW Van Centre Lancashire for the first interval service and was advised of need for Oil cooler seal recall.  We've a T30 2.5TDi (Feb 07).  Booked in for next Wednesday and advised it could be  a 2 hour or a 6 hour job depending on what they find. 

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T5 2.5TDi T30 Devon Conversion


Posted By: Onefut
Date Posted: 26 Apr 08 at 11:59
just wonderin if mine is covered by any recall notices as mines an import modelConfused
anybody know????


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 26 Apr 08 at 21:39

I wonder if older vans are covered?  I can't spare my van at the moment but as soon as I can I'm going to check.  Assuming my early van is  one that is affected it'll be a good test of VW's commitment to its customers once they are out of warranty.   I'll report back here. 



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Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 01 May 08 at 21:13
It's going to be a couple of weeks before I get back to Cornwall and I'd rather not use a London dealer that doesn't know me or the van.   I can't spare the van while I'm working so I'll just be watching the oil/coolant levels until then.  Has anyone else with an out of warranty van had an answer?   

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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: excalibur
Date Posted: 02 May 08 at 19:20
It is an oil cooler replacement on the 2.5 engine. It is not a recall but a workshop action so you will be informed when you book in for any service or repair work if it is needed on your vehicle. As far as I am aware letters are not being sent out on this

If you are concerened then contact your dealer and ask them to check on ELSA/FISH for any outstanding workshop actions.

If it hasn't started leaking then it is about a 2 hour job, if it has then its a bit longer as the system needs flushing. No need for everyone to get in a panic because its only a small percentage that have failed, this is a pro active thing being done by VW


Posted By: excalibur
Date Posted: 02 May 08 at 19:22
T5 TDI recals and workshop actions apply to all vehicles regardless of warranty status


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 02 May 08 at 19:58
Thanks for clearing that up Mr big sword Big%20smile   I'll see what happens in a couple of weeks.  What chance do you think I will have of getting my water pump changed too?  I'm pretty sure it will fail sooner or later.  It does lose water very slowly over time.   I reported it but no fault found.  I'm on 42K with a huge history of faults/breakdowns. 

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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: excalibur
Date Posted: 02 May 08 at 20:08
T5 TDI is yours less than 4 years old?



Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 02 May 08 at 20:22
4 years and 4 months.....

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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 03 May 08 at 12:35
Originally posted by excalibur excalibur wrote:



If it hasn't started leaking then it is about a 2 hour job, if it has then its a bit longer as the system needs flushing.
 
"a bit longer" -  that is the understatement of the year   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
Mine went back 5 times, the workshop had it for over 12 days and I had to drive it hard (ie caning it) over 1,000Km before all the oil was gone out of the coolant.  Shocked    I was NOT a happy camper, to say the least ! Angry
 
I'd recommend you ask if it applies to your van and get it done before your oil cooler fails, as based on my experience it is an absolute PITA once it leaks.


Posted By: gason
Date Posted: 04 May 08 at 09:39
well at least it aint a total recall yet thank fook i think its one to keep an eye on


Posted By: Fast[Plumber
Date Posted: 15 May 08 at 22:14
My 54 plate swb 174 is not on the recall list
Asked my stealer to do it if it was- computer says no!


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 16 May 08 at 22:21

If your dealer is right FP then it sounds like like VW is saying that four years is considered a normal time for an oil cooler to fail. (Which it's not).  Unless the early vans didn't get the faulty oil cooler which sounds a bit unlikely to me. 

I'll see what they say about mine when I get back home in a weeks time.  


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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 17 May 08 at 14:06
It seems VW Australia are aware of this oil cooler problem, but refuse to issue a "workshop action" ( or anything else).  It appears they would rather let them fail and hope some are out of warranty so they don't have to pay.  My dealer is very unhappy about the situation, but can't force VWA to do the right thing.  So even though I didn't have to pay as I was covered under warranty, I was still severely inconvenienced by them having my van 5 times to work on it.  It would be worse for those out of warranty !


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 28 May 08 at 15:22
Well I finally got back home and rang the dealer today.  She looked it up on Elsa and said mine wasn't affected.  I can't tell if it's because mine's one of the earliest vans and they don't want to pay for it or because it simply doesn't have the problem.  So it's fingers crossed for me on the oil cooler and the water pump. Angry
 
It does look like unless you are going in for servicing or other warranty work you won't find out if your van is affected which I think is wrong.  Who needs all the grief Greg had when they could have just rung him up and called him in at his own conveniance before it failed?
 
I would say if your van hasn't been in the dealers for a while ring and ask them to check if yours could have the oil cooler problem.
 
Considering that the T5 is the flagship van for VW (and it is a brilliant design and a total pleasure to drive) surely they can't afford not to sort out these early problems even outside warranty when things fail way before their expected mileage.  We love our vans and we really do want to say only nice things about them out here in webland but how can we if they won't be straight with us?  Times have changed, the genie is out of the bottle! 


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2004 2.5 174


Posted By: Ruds
Date Posted: 26 Jul 08 at 09:52
I had mine go on my van but the dealership came and picked it up and dealt with it. What do they have to do to fix the problem?


Posted By: Mike_T5
Date Posted: 06 Sep 08 at 20:41
I'm afraid I'm with T5 TDI on this one!... I really think that VW will only recall those vehicles that are young, or under warranty. Today, I have had a new water pump fitted to my '04 174, at 62k. Last week I was driving to Birmingham airport, and about half way there, the MFD came up saying 'STOP, check coolant'. So, I topped it up, and carried on. It then happened again about 20 miles before I got there. I then drove home from the airport Thursday night and had to top it up three times. What concerns me, is that to my mind, the design is cr@p! Seeing the pump body today, it is quite obvious that the pump body (dry section) is rusting, big time! The water side is protected by anti-freeze, and the oil side, protected by the oil. But the central body and vent/leak hole are within part of the engine block, and in the event of a leak, will drain into it's chamber in the block, and then down the rubber drain tube. To my mind, this rusting is caused by condensation within this chamber during the warming up/colling process. In my case (and most, I would guess), it has obviously rusted, and then when it decided to leak, it most likely weeped just enough to wash rust down the rubber tube, which then dried up when warm. This process has most likely happened a few times, until it completely blocked the drain tube. Then, when the pump cr@pped out altogether, it just pushed the water across, and through the oil side instead, slowly filling the sump with water! I am not impressed about this scenario, so if I get time, I will be taking it up with VW next week!

Mike.


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04 reg T30 174ps, raven blue. AmD 205bhp remap since new, lowered, ABT AR19 alloys, modded to excess :-)
'03 E46 M3 Avus Blue, Champagne leather, but not pampered like the van ;-)


Posted By: Dub4life
Date Posted: 27 Sep 08 at 12:15
On that recall note. Generally. I emailed my local stealer and asked if there were any recalls on my 56 plate 104. I never even got a reply, only a read reciept. Do you think before it goes out of warranty I should call in there and get a definitive answer?

Second point. Had a vw quote for my 2yr break fluid service £65 all in?? Is that a fair price??

Dan.

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 28 Sep 08 at 05:44
Originally posted by Dub4life Dub4life wrote:

On that recall note. Generally. I emailed my local stealer and asked if there were any recalls on my 56 plate 104. I never even got a reply, only a read reciept. Do you think before it goes out of warranty I should call in there and get a definitive answer? 
 
 
I definitely would, and to improve the reliability of the answer I would ask the person to write it down (particularly if they tell you there are no outstanding "campaigns" for your van), put their name on it, and sign the piece of paper giving details. 
 
It is amazing how much more thorough some people are when it becomes obvious there will be consequences for them giving incorrect advice Wink
 
Given the large number of problems that early build T5s are prone to, I  would advise getting an independent VW specialist to do a "pre expiry of warranty" check in case there are things about to create havoc that you haven't noticed yet.  That might just save you some serious money.


Posted By: chrismk1van
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 13:14
i work at a main dealer, its a oil cooler recall, has absolutely nothing to do with the water pump, you get a new oil cooler and seals, and the gasket where it mounts to block, thats if it hasnt mixed, if it has, you get a whole new filter housing! but it is only on certain vehicles! which elsa will inform us of! a recall will be carried out even if the vehicle is out of warranty! as it is a recognised defect!
but only certain vans are affected!
 
you all going on about the water pump leaking, does happen from time to time, and is a servicable item, but dependant on milage may be done for you, if vehicle is still under warranty!
hope this helps!
chris


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Posted By: kaboom12
Date Posted: 30 Oct 08 at 18:42

I wish I had seen Chris post earlier today.  Following a fault signaled by the water warning light on the dash, therefore I dropped by 2005 T5 in to my location dealer.  They phoned informed me that they could not find a fault on the system, however further investigation showed oil in both my water and power steering system (pump failure) and therefore they would like to relieve me of £1200.  As my vehicle is outside of warranties and I am not the original owner (only had it 5 months) VW would give me £133 towards the repair. 

 

I have gone from someone who had nothing but good things to say about the VW, to a very pissed off customer who is considering sell the van.  It sad to say, but my Alfa is proving cheaper and more reliable.  I am confused as to why if this is an accepted problem that they will not at lease offer to pay for the part to repair vehicles outside warranties.

 

I hope that everyone else here has better luck than me and gets the matter sorted in side warranties.

 

Ben



Posted By: chrismk1van
Date Posted: 31 Oct 08 at 14:39
its basically the person befopre you obviously never bothered to take it into there dealership! as they's of picked up on it inside warranty!

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Posted By: gason
Date Posted: 31 Oct 08 at 18:04
i had an issue with something simple only to be told my van was being recalled for the oil cooler which they replaced with no issues yet its a 130 07 trendline


Posted By: chrismk1van
Date Posted: 01 Nov 08 at 09:58
best to change them before they mix! Smile

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chris - 07940425976


Posted By: porky
Date Posted: 03 Nov 08 at 13:31
Its not just T30's mines a T32 and it went in for the seal a few months back. Its built during feb 2007. there is another thread on this site about it which gives manufactured dates, thats what prompted me to check it out.
 
 


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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 04:36
Just to clarify, there seems to be  three different problems being discussed here:
 
Faulty oil coolers (seems to affect lots of  5 cyls built 2006/7), this is subject to an upgrade program, and I would expect (but not guarantee) VW to pay for the fix even if the van is outside of warranty.  This one puts oil into the coolant.
 
Faulty waterpump - seal failure (seems to be fairly common in early build 5cyls).  This leads to coolant in the oil.  Impellers also seem to corrode/fall apart on the early ones.
 
Power steering pump failure (see post by kaboom12 above).  This seems to be much less common (or at least I haven't read of many occurrences so far), and leads to engine oil in the coolant and power steering systems. 
 
Maybe we should start up a sticky for COMMON T5 problems ?
 
 


Posted By: jock
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 20:12
just taken my 06 t5 into the main dealer to inspect a particulate warning light and was presented with two pages of faults. one of which was water and oil mixing in the power steering pump total cost £1390.particulate filter was 95% full but also a faulty warning sensor would have to be replaced can,t remember the cost of the filter or the sensor. another fault was oil leaking from the turbo, and i was told this would cost me £2890. a leaking water pump was diagnosed but i have not noticed any leak, cost £289 i think it might be gold plated or something!. also they detected play in the gear selecter ring, cant quiet remember how much this was, i think it was at this point i started to break down and cry. although the van is only two years old it has done 145 000 miles so is out of waranty and as my last service was not carried out by a main dealer i have been told that vw good will would not apply. all this has left me with a bitter taste, after all its only two years and three months old ! and as i drive mainly on motorways on cruise control its not like its getting a hard time from me, and i think that the fact that i regularly get between 600 and 650 miles out of a tank reflects this is this. could this possibly be the technicians worried about the recession and finding extra faults or is my van really f....d. if anyone else has had this sort of trouble please reply.Cry

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Posted By: mps_surcouf
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 21:01
jock

I feel really sorry for you. Thats a whole heap of bills.
145k is a lot but sounds like your miles are low stress.

I guess since you mention water pump it is a 2.5?

You must get a second opinion and price before you totally despair.

Good luck let us know and share your grief

Cheers

Mike

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2008 T5 Kombi T32 SWB
130PS 2.5
Chassis WV2ZZZ7HZ9H01****
Engine BNZ14****


Posted By: jock
Date Posted: 27 Nov 08 at 21:32
hi mike thanx for the reply, yes my van is a130 ps 2.5 and  no i don,t thrash my van i grew out of my boy racer faze about 20 years ago, thats why i am really p....d off about it all.

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jock


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 02:03
What rotten "luck" :(
 
If you drive mainly on motorways you shouldn't be having any DPF problems at all.
 
Those quoted costs seem rather high to me.  I'd be taking it to an independent VW specialist to get a quote for the waterpump and power steering, and possibly a turbo specialist to look at the turbo.  At least then you will have a better idea of whether to go ahead with repairs or not. 
 
Maybe an engine out of a low mileage wreck would be a better option ?
 
Thre was a campaign to fix faulty water pumps in Touaregs with R5 motors (same motor and pump as in T5s), IIRC the id was "90D7".  Some forum members have managed to embarrass VW into contributing to the cost of fixing it on their T5s.


Posted By: T5 TDI
Date Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 17:30
The water pumps were modified some time in '05 for one that doesn't leak (we all hope!) so unless you are losing water that seems odd. I don't know that much about DPF's (haven't got one on my '04)  but I read they can be made to 'regenerate' using vag-com or similar diagnosic tool.  This means if your type of driving hasn't made the ecu order the DPF to burn off then the diagnostic tool can.  It may have gone too far for that.  There have been quite a few tales here about DPF's so it looks like it's something VW know about.  As long as the servicing has been done correctly VW will often consider a goodwill claim I know that for a fact.  The mileage might go against you but it's hardly huge for a van.  If your story turns out to be the norm VW won't be selling many more vans! 
 
I wouldn't consider that estimate without checking with another dealer and an independant.  They will have to be a pretty clued up independant though to be up to speed with all the details about the dpf.  There was talk of software updates for DPF faults so perhaps Excalibur can help here.... 
 
If it was me I'd write to VW at Milton Keynes and ask what they think.  145K shouldn't be anything to VW's flagship van.   


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Posted By: jock
Date Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 21:11
cheers for the reply guys, i have had to go ahead for some of the repairs just to get me back on the road again. the main dealer has said that vw will contribute 20% to the cost of the repairs but only on the total cost of what the dealer has quoted , so for the repairs that are being done now i will have to pay the full cost of the bill. having spoken to the dealer today and further protesting my disgust at the fact that the turbo and steering pump have given up the ghost so early, and that my old t4 had done a lot more miles than 145000 [ it had actualy done over 200000 miles and the only thing that went wrong with it was a water pump]  the guy on the phone told me that they had had turbos go much earlier than mine and that the old t4 was bullit proof, shame they didn,t tell me this when i bought the t5. i think that i will have to write a letter to vw as you suggested to hear from the horses mouth what they think about these problems before maybe taking the matter even further. again thanks for the replies and the technical info.Angry

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jock


Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 21:29
I was reading a bit more about DPFs on a US diesel site (sorry, can't remember the web address). 
 
They said that when the DPF gets a bit blocked they burn off the soot particles OK, but this leaves a fine ash behind, and eventually this fine ash residue builds up and blocks off the DPF to the point where it has to be replaced. 
 
So it seems a DPF is like a clutch or brakes - eventually it will need replacing. 


Posted By: jock
Date Posted: 28 Nov 08 at 22:05
thanks gregozedobe:- items like the particulate filter and the water pump i can accept as wear and tear, its the other items that i feel are premature in there distruction.Angry

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jock


Posted By: gason
Date Posted: 09 Mar 09 at 17:31
well i went to get a new stalk and they said i needed the oil cooler changing which they did  under guarantee


Posted By: dazoo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 09 at 16:00
Jock,

I have been doing some asking around and for a vehicle that is out of warranty, get a second opinion from an independent garage. It seems all to easy for these VW garages to present a wealth of problems when nobody is going to challenge their diagnosis. I am sure there are many great mechanics working in dealerships, but remember a truly good mechanic can make a lot more money in a small independent business or out on his own.

If you thought your van was ok, how come everything on it is at breakdown point? Doesn't seem right, does it? If things were failing badly, you would have noticed surely? How come you have had no actual failures, no warning lights, no smoke...?

Presented with a list like that, I'd be taking it to an independent to see what he would fix to keep it running well.


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Posted By: shaun89
Date Posted: 29 May 09 at 20:50
i have a 2005 swb t30 174 and the oil cooler went. after getting it replaced half a mile down the road the turbo packed in. only 40,000 miles on it but out of warranty last year is there no wy volkswaGON WOULD DO ANYTHING?????????

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Posted By: gason
Date Posted: 09 Jun 09 at 18:15
you could always hassle them to show good will GOOD LUCK


Posted By: roadmark69
Date Posted: 17 Sep 09 at 09:14
I wonder how VW at Milton Keynes would feel if a large number of vans were to turn up with known faults,that they seem reluctant to admit.I am sure it would attract some un wanted press attention. 

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Posted By: paulbanc
Date Posted: 18 Sep 09 at 21:04
Hmmmm, sounds kinda familiar after a long battle with VW they agreed to replace my gearbox (tiptronic) (long story!) anyways, as a result of the dealer getting the van into their workshop they discovered that there was engine oil in the coolant and steering fluid!!! As the gearbox was being sorted out I felt obliged to have them take care of the problem. Cost me nearly £1000 with special discount!!!!!
I now realise that it's a common problem!



Posted By: mak
Date Posted: 11 Dec 09 at 10:54
hi, being new and inexperienced with all this I am wondering if any1 can tell me what years this affects, as I have just agreed to buy a 2.5 174 on a 55 plate. Also how do I go about finding out whether it would be affected.


Posted By: 5.2TDi
Date Posted: 12 Apr 10 at 10:43
Well I just rang the Listers Worcester & got them to check mine out. Yes there is a recall for the oil cooler & seals issue but only certain numbers within a chassis range. Luckily mine is not affected, but as mentioned previously worth a phonecall.


Posted By: BOY BLUE
Date Posted: 17 Mar 13 at 10:01
Confused I HAVE GOT A LATE 2007 2.5 TDI 130 WILL THIS NEED DOING

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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 18 Mar 13 at 10:07
Maybe, maybe not.  Does it currently have any oil in the coolant (or power steering fluid) ?

Check in drivers side door opening for any stickers for campaigns that have been applied to your van to see if the oil cooler has already been replaced.  You can also ask a dealer whether your van is affected (they'll need your rego # or VIN).


Posted By: CMP260
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 08:55
I HAVE OIL IN POWERSTEERING RESEVOIR. 2006 2.5 MULTIVAN. AFTER SEARCHING FORUMS I FIND THE BLOWN SEAL IS A KNOWN PROBLEM AND VW ARE AWARE OF IT.
I PHONE LOCAL VW DEALER AND ASK IF THERE IS A RECALL. SHE LOOKS UP MY VIN AND SAYS NO. I WHINGE AND TELL HER THAT THERE MUST BE. SHE GETS SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH TO SPEAK TO ME (IM IN GERMANY). I REPEAT THE ISSUE. HE TELLS ME THERE IS NO RECALL BUT THERE MIGHT BE A "TPE"
APPARENTLY A RECALL IS A MANDATORY THING WHERE VW HAVE TO ASK YOU TO COME IN (PERHAPS SAFETY RELATED). A TPE IS A KNOWN ISSUE. -HOPEFULLY OBLIGED TO FIX-. ILL FIND OUT WHEN I BRING IT IN IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.


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Posted By: gregozedobe
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 10:54
You can try for a "good will" contribution from VW, but I wouldn't hold my breath while I'm waiting .....

Might be worth finding out if VW did a free fix for Toureg owners (they have for other R5 engine faults ie oil pump).


Posted By: CMP260
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 11:44
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEA WHAT A VW "TPI" OR PERHAPS "TPE" NOTICE OR BULLETIN IS?

.  -TRANSLATED FROM VW LINGO TO NON-ACRONYM?


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was a 2006 130 shuttle
now a 2006 174 multivan


Posted By: SebRogers
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 12:24
Originally posted by CMP260 CMP260 wrote:

ANYONE GOT ANY IDEA WHAT A VW "TPI" OR PERHAPS "TPE" NOTICE OR BULLETIN IS?

.  -TRANSLATED FROM VW LINGO TO NON-ACRONYM?

There's no need to shout Wink

TPI is Technical Product Information. TSB is Technical Service Bulletin.


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'85 T3 Doka EJ22
'94 T4 Westy Cali Club ABT 2.4td


Posted By: CMP260
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 13:11
sorry, to lazy to unpush caps lockPig
is TPI repair normally done free?


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was a 2006 130 shuttle
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Posted By: SebRogers
Date Posted: 06 Oct 14 at 15:55
I dunno. I think recalls are accompanied by a TSB and are done free. TPI, I think, clarifies a service procedure or something like that. 

You need someone who works for VW or knows their procedures to answer the question, really. Try maxandcaddy on here...


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'85 T3 Doka EJ22
'94 T4 Westy Cali Club ABT 2.4td


Posted By: CMP260
Date Posted: 08 Oct 14 at 12:34
its starting to sound like ill have to do it myself, anyone familiar with the procedure?
I read I have to buy a entire expensive pump just to get the seal, is that still true?


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was a 2006 130 shuttle
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Posted By: CMP260
Date Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 08:39
as expected VW phoned and said the mileage is too high so they wont cover it despite the pws seal failure not being a mileage related, wear and tear part. They know its a design fault - We all know its a design fault.

I'm thinking about making a blog about the seal problem to try to embarrass VW into doing the right thing.


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was a 2006 130 shuttle
now a 2006 174 multivan



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