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    Posted: 16 May 19 at 08:24
Hello all, 

After getting over having to remove the engine the remove the water pump debackle (see my previous post) things have been going well until recently i have been getting an intermittent coil light coming on the dash and loss of power. (see video below)



this all stated very harmlessly and happened once in a blue moon. so thouhgt id let it develop before spending too much time looking in to it. noy it got to the point were i was almost stranded on the road side unable to get it to go. so i did a diagnostic session with VCDS and got these results....

Quote Friday,19,April,2019,12:30:01:00006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0


VIN:    License Plate: 


                Address 01: Engine       Labels: 070-906-016-AXD.clb
Control Module Part Number: 070 906 016 BA    HW: 028 101 166 4
  Component and/or Version: R5 2,5L EDC G000SG  7001
           Software Coding: 0000132
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00066 001 57865
                      VCID: 50AFC642C0E335C4C8-515A
2 Faults Found:

18062 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster 
            P1654 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1785 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 79.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.44 V
                    Temperature: 20.7°C
                    Temperature: 86.4°C
                    Temperature: 10.8°C

18009 - Relay for Supply Voltage Terminal 30 (J317) 
            P1601 - 000 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 336 /min
                    Torque: -119.6 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 13.76 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000
                    Bin. Bits:        0
                    (no units): 0.0

Address 17: Instruments       Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 7H0 920 851 L
  Component and/or Version: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
           Software Coding: 01112
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00001  
           Additional Info: WV1ZZZ7HZ6H120231     VWZ7Z0F3715138
                      VCID: 3467AAD2043B69E4CC-513C
3 Faults Found:

00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

I cleared all the codes but "00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) 30-00 - Open or Short to Plus" keeps returning. when putting the keys in the ignition i am getting the yellow oil can light flashing (oil level is fine on the stick) So it was a bank holiday weekend and i got a new oil sensor in the scrap yard. This made a vast improvement but still get the odd knock with a flash of the coil light on the dash. I also ordered a new sensor on eBay the same weekend so to rule it out i changed that sensor again last night clear all the faults and put the key in the ignition and still have the yellow oil can light flashing when the dash lights come on.

SO! my question what else am i missing? could there be another sensor i am not aware of? Im wondering did these sensors get damaged when the coolant mixed with the oil when the water pump seized. any help would be appreciated. 

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Have a look or post on the vcds forum, might give you a clue or two.
There is also info on each fault code which might help.
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The terminal 30 supply is the unswitched 12v supply.  It gets used for lots of things but it is is vital so it's probably worth starting there.  You should find it in the fuse box under the bonnet labelled 109.  Any of the engine faults could be caused by it if it is failing.

On your VCDS scan the engine is complaining that it doesn't like messages it is getting from the instrument cluster and the instruments are complaining that it can't communicate with the engine.  It could be wiring between the two or the dash or the ECU, but the whole lot including the oil temperature light (which is the same sensor as the oil level sensor) could be caused by the terminal 30 relay or the connections to it.       
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Hi thanks for the reply. ok, seems like a reasonable place to look. ill get stuck in to it over the weekend and see how i get on. I'll post back with results. thanks 
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Hi all just  to update on the current situation. I got a brand new factory sensor and fitted it and the coil light has never some back on nor have i had any power loss but i cant clear the fault code for love nor money. Im still getting the yellow oil can light on start up but infrequently. so besides the light coming on from time to time everything else seems to be fine but i dont want an intermittent light coming on in the dash.

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Success!!

So a number of months later I decided to let the problem develop. I was on a trip to Spain when the problem really acting up. Everytime I hit a bump in the road the coil light came on and I lost power. It got so bad that it was conking out on small cobbled streets.


 Long story short  I limped in to a campsite and started digging for a loose connection or broken cable all the cables outside the electrical box under the main battery. After opening that box I began to check the relays and their conditions for burning or signs of heat when suddenly I discovered a brown cable loose. 



What appears to have happened is the earth nut had vibrated its way off the earth pole in the box and the 3 cables worked themselves loose. So the reason I was getting these faults was technically a bad earth but was more prominent when I hit a bump cos the earth cables were jumping around. I found a spare nylon nut from something else and Bolted town the cables. Cleared the faults with the VCDS and BINGO! Back to how things were. 300km today without an issue.
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Thanks for getting back. Smile  Interesting that the poor earth did cause the oil lights to come on.  I've seen a few people struggling with that problem after changing the sensor and checking all the nearby wiring.  One to remember!
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