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    Posted: 05 Nov 09 at 06:25
Glow plug light id flashing and the 'Engine Workshop!' message is up.  We all know what that will be. Wink 
The stop lights aren't working and vag-com confirms
the problem.  I wonder why VW keeps on making crappy stop light switches.  I've been changing them since the first TDI's came out more than ten years ago. 
 
 
Wednesday,04,November,2009,17:37:51:20365
VCDS Version: Release 908.1
Data version: 20091018
 
1 Fault Found:
 
16955 - Brake Switch (F): Implausible Signal
            P0571 - 000 -  -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 777 /min
                    Torque: 53.7 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.29 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001110
                    Torque: 153.7 Nm
                    Bin. Bits:  0 01  0
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 09 at 20:59

I've got 53,000 miles out of mine so that's good then Tongue  Just in case anyone else is looking here the symptoms are the glow plug light flashing and if you have the MFC (Multi funtion computer) you get a scary 'Engine Workshop' message as well. 

Might as well make it a 'How to do' Smile   It's an easy job on a T5 once you know how, but if you don't it's easy to wreck your new switch. 
 
Removal  
 
First take out the six or so torx 20 screws on the plastic panel under the driver's feet.  The switch is then easily seen above the brake pedal.  With the ignition off, just grab it, turn it anti-clockwise and pull it out from its bayonet fitting with the wiring attached.  Then, squeeze the two prongs on each side of the wiring plug and pull it free.
 
Fitting
 
It's really easy to break these unless you know how they work.  The switch has the usual spring-loaded plunger.  Plunger out = brake lights on,  Plunger in = brakes lights off.
 
However, VW TDI switches have an internal ratchet which needs to be set and then locked.   I don't know why this is adjustment is needed but probably so the same switch can fit different VW models with different pedal travel.   
 
The ratchet needs to be set for length first so-  Engage the switch in the hole then make sure that the plunger just touches the brake pedal- don't turn the switch at this point, just stick it in the hole and allow the plunger ratchet to shorten (click click click) until it just contacts the pedal.  Now comes the critical bit- once you turn the switch clockwise to lock it into its bayonet fitting this also locks the ratchet to the plunger length (from the pedal) you have chosen.  If you mess with ratchet from now on you will probably strip the internal plastic teeth.  Click the wires back on and that's it.  Big smile 
 
If you had the the glow plug light on the dash flashing and/or any other dash warnings, a few presses of the brake pedal with the engine running should clear them if the switch has been fitted correctly.  Don't forget to check that the brake lights go on and off as they should.  Make sure that the brake pedal needs to be pressed slightly before the brake lights come on.  If it's too 'hair trigger' and the brake lights come on with barely the weight of your foot they may flicker on when you are driving leading to the engine cutting to idle as you are driving!  I think you should be ok to reset the length of the plunger if you need to but only with the switch in your hand ie disengaged from it's bayonet fitting.    
 
This description is 'warts and all' and actually it will only take you a maximum of 30 minutes (assuming you are a complete duffer) to do this simple job.   Wink
 
I'm not much of a fan of aftermarket switches/sensors but I paid less than £7 for mine today and surely it can't be worse than the original LOL
 
         
 
  


Edited by T5 TDI - 13 Nov 09 at 08:06
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