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    Posted: 04 Dec 17 at 12:45
Ok so my air con was emptied (wont go into the story) but I read online that it'll be OK like that as long as it ain't run BUT I've recently read that it could kill the pump even if not turned on.

Can anyone tell me which is correct?
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Hi Onefut Smile  If it was mine I would remove the rubber coupling to suspend the A/C physically.  I am absolutely not an A/C guru but because the compressor on a 2.5 is turning all the time the engine is running (unlike most other A/C systems with an electro-magnetic clutch) the oil which is normally added with the gas will not be present so the system could theoretically run without lubrication for the internal seals. I don't know if this is correct but I prefer to be on the conservative side. 😊

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Yes, remove the Gates rubber coupling if there is no refrigerant charge, the compressor does have an oil sump, but the recommendation by VW is to disconnect 
the coupling or there is a risk of overheating the compressor. Seal any open pipes connections or other open areas.
When reassembled and recharged, remember to turn the compressor a few turns by hand to lube front seal before starting up.
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Originally posted by Stryne Stryne wrote:

Yes, remove the Gates rubber coupling if there is no refrigerant charge, the compressor does have an oil sump, but the recommendation by VW is to disconnect 
the coupling or there is a risk of overheating the compressor. Seal any open pipes connections or other open areas.
When reassembled and recharged, remember to turn the compressor a few turns by hand to lube front seal before starting up.

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It's fairly easy to get the compressor coupling off as long as you are reasonably handy with spanners. Smile 
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Cheers folks
It's been like this a while so I fear I may have already buggered it

i thought there was a clutch on the front?!


Edited by Onefut - 11 Dec 17 at 12:57
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There is a 'shear clutch' on the front of the compressor.  Since we already have a stripable rubber coupling I'm not sure what is the purpose of the shear clutch.  I know that it can fail itself, perhaps after a seized freewheel goes unnoticed over time.  You can easily check that the freewheel isn't seized (see my video in the modifications section) and confirm at the same time that the shear clutch actually isn't wobbling about.

You might get away with it, depends on what else happened with your A/C..       
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Originally posted by T5 TDI T5 TDI wrote:

There is a 'shear clutch' on the front of the compressor.  Since we already have a stripable rubber coupling I'm not sure what is the purpose of the shear clutch.  I know that it can fail itself, perhaps after a seized freewheel goes unnoticed over time....    

I tend to think that the compressor drive is actually another damping device going by its design, more protection for the engine gear train. The one on mine was wrecked only after the freewheel seized.

Edit: just to add that the compressor does not have the common elect. magnetic clutch, it is controlled by an internal pressure valve and its electronic circuitry controls. That is another reason to not go poking around with 12V on the compressor wiring.


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