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Andy Mel 
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 Topic: Fuseboard trouble!!Posted: 27 Jun 08 at 16:28 |
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Hi everyone,
i am trying to find a replacement fuseboard for my '79 LT35, its the early type with the headlight relay in the first slot on the left if that helps. Just LTs were no joy and a second hand one i found also appeared to be a later type and also no good!
Please help my van is struggling to run with electrics issues...
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Andy
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eltee
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Posted: 27 Jun 08 at 17:27 |
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the part number on a later one is 171941821C from chassis no 28A0005295
i think the early one is 171941821A but etka doesnt give an early number anymore.
the fuse box should be the same as an early golf or passat, 1980 and earlier. hope this helps.
maybe try a golf forum.
Whats the problem with the fusebox?
Pete
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Butternut boy
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Posted: 27 Jun 08 at 18:06 |
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I'll try a scrappers near me for ya.
also just found this link to eltee part number 17194821A. eVWparts.com seems a bit pricey but it might get you started on alternatives. Pat. Edited by Butternut boy - 27 Jun 08 at 18:15 |
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Andy Mel
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Posted: 28 Jun 08 at 14:41 |
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Thanks guys,
part number is indeed 171 941 913A / 171 941 821A on the back of the board.
never come across evwparts before - it could well be a winner if all else fails!!
Not entirely sure what the exact problem is, it started out with headlight issues which were eventually traced to being a fault within the board. Had this rectified by an auto electrician who has advised ther board was on its last legs and needed replacing and then to seal the deal the van started to cut out the other night with the AA concluding it was an electrical fault in the fuseboard!!
Any help gladly received!!
Andy
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Butternut boy
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Posted: 28 Jun 08 at 19:25 |
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Andy, I'm no expert on auto electrics and I'm sorry if you've all ready tried all this but.... what I'd do is.....
Get the van ticking over with your headlights on and work your way through the wires at the back of the fuse box, giving each one a good waggle and see if you cant make the thing cut out or the headlights fail or both. This way you might isolate the problem. You could buy yourself a can of "Servisol" or another type of spray switch cleaner and, with the engine OFF, spray a liberal amount on all the contact points. This might get rid of any corrosion that may be breaking the circuits. I've had headlight failure before that was just down to a build up of crap which was breaking the circuit at the fuse tips. I've also had fuses that looked fine and weren't working and when I replaced them the fault was cured right away. If you've a multi-meter you might check for continuity across each fuse while the van is running, there should be a constant reading across them all. If one or more show a fluctuation this might be where your problem lies. If all this fails what I would do is take the whole thing out, making a note and labeling where everything goes and have a good look at all the spade connection points at the back, checking your relays as well. After that I'm afraid I'd have to say, go to an auto-electrician with the necessary equipment to fault find the wiring throughout your van. Hope this helps in someway. Let me know how you get on. Pat. |
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Posted: 01 Jul 08 at 23:08 |
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Hi mate, i know sod all about electrics, but i was in a MK1 golf secialists today and he said that he's just sodl a fuse box from a MK1 golf to goa on a 1979 LT because apparantly they are the same..
good old VW..
let me know if you need his details
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Andy Mel
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Posted: 02 Jul 08 at 11:29 |
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Hi lawsy,
spoke to a guy at crazyquiffs mk1 golf parts and got the closest match yet but still not quite the same as the old one!!
The thing that puzzles me now though is quite what the difference is with the letter after the part number?? For instance i need 171941821 A and i have found boards with the same number but B & C also shown underneath... I can see that the headlight relay is no longer used on the later boards but what other difference is there??
I think i'm becoming a reluctant LT fuseboard expert!!
Cheers for all the help so far..
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eltee
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Posted: 02 Jul 08 at 16:04 |
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does your fuse box have ceramic torpedo fuse, or the push in blade type,
some mk1 golf had torpedo style and later ones had blade push in.
171941821c was fitted to a golf 1978 onwards.and that looks like it still had torpedo style.
this is taken from a mk1 golf 1978
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Posted: 02 Jul 08 at 19:05 |
Thats the fella, he's a mate of mine....
I've no idea on stuff like that, but he's clued up on it so might be worth asking him
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Andy Mel
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Posted: 02 Jul 08 at 19:13 |
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Hi Eltee,
i'm on the bullet type board. I checked out the picture you added - i presume its from vagcat.com - and it doesn't seem to actually list the part number for the board itself unless i'm missing something!
If only there was a resource somewhere listing the different board types??
Keep the ideas coming!!
Cheers
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thal
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Posted: 03 Jul 08 at 11:19 |
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hi I think I may have one in the 45 im breaking will check and let you know
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Posted: 03 Jul 08 at 22:04 |
I agree with what Butternut Boy said 100%. Those fuses can corrode on the tips and even just twisting them in their holder can make contact again. I had a problem with my headlights on one side and it was just the fuse tip had deterioated with a bad connection and the high current of the headlight making it get worse at the point of contact with all the heat across the poor connection. Those fuse boxes are made pretty well and the actual wires and connections going into it should be ok. Not like some of the nasty rivets Ford used to use on connections that got hot. Its worthwhile buying some new fuses and swapping them for any that looks a bit old of that spark a little when you twist them. Also have a look for any non VW wiring that has been added, say by someone cutting a wire and putting a terminal block on the join. Even worse just twisted togethered and taped up. You would probably be surprised how its cures all sorts of random problems if you just clear the fuse holder contacts by removing each fuse ONE AT A TIME and wiping the brass terminals of the fuse holder with something like duraglit to make it shiney again. Don't scratch it with emery paper or anything else abrasive though. If you do that and replace some of the older looking fuses or even all of them (they are dirt cheap), then I suspect you will see the electrical problems disappear.
BTW, has anyone ever been able to find a source for the flexible printed circcuit board behind the speddo cluster? Mine became intermittent and eventually the indicator and main beam warning lights would not show. I had to make my own version of the main beam and indicator warning using seperate lamps mounted in the blanking panels next to the heater controls. Had to get the feed for the lamps from the fuse box as didn't want to take the instrument cluster out incase it caused more problems with the flexi printed circuit. I nearly got hold of a spare instrument cluster from ebay recently, but the seller let me down and didn't send it. At least I got my money back via paypal, but a right pain in the Ar*s.
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thal
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Posted: 04 Jul 08 at 20:52 |
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Hi I have the fuse board you need
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Andy Mel
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Posted: 04 Jul 08 at 21:23 |
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Hi Terry,
PM sent. Thanks for the help guys!
I'm still really curious about the differences though..
Andy
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Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 14:21 |
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Can anyone tell me if the later LT models had blade type fuseboxes as I have a 1984 LT31 with the old style fuses - would really like to swap the fusebox for a blade type. Are the multipin connectors the same?
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Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 17:58 |
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Hi, I've got a '93 (registered 1 Jan93, so made late '92) and its got the bullet type fuses- anyone out there got a later van?
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thal
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Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 19:06 |
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as far as I know they all have this type of fusebox
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Posted: 19 Nov 08 at 23:35 |
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Daft question but do you have a 2.0 or a 2.4 petrol, reason I am asking is that I experienced similar problems and by accident discovered that the throttle cable was tapping against the fuel shut off valve on the carb.
If you suspect the fusebox is the problem then all you need to do is provide a separate feed to the coil, if the problem goes away then its not the fusebox!! |
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Posted: 22 Nov 08 at 17:54 |
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I've got a 95 M reg van with bullet type fuse board, checked it today.
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