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volition82 
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 Topic: Rustoleum - Pro's Cons Experience etcPosted: 03 May 13 at 09:45 |
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I'd be interested in how you get on with the uv clear coat. I tried a matt clear coat on mine but it went on and dried patchy. It couldn't be rollered it needed to be sprayed.
Also on a side note my colour has faded quite badly as well. It is black so it's about the worst colour for it. It's now more of a dark greyish colour.
Mat - The vans looking good. Wouldn't have been a colour which springs to mind but it looks good on the van.
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1989 LT35 - 2.4 Lpg/Petrol - Converted To Camper
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mat_the_cat
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Posted: 23 Apr 13 at 16:45 |
Being in Wales, I live in hope! I let the paint harden for a week or so before refitting things, and it's almost back together now. It's in danger of looking semi respectable!   |
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Mid engined, 6 cylinder, turbocharged 2 seater - it can only be a VW LT!
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bibblybobs
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Posted: 19 Apr 13 at 09:12 |
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Hi Andy
Yes a UV clearcoat would be a good idea if you are thinking of a strong colour. Mine is lilac, it was a dark lilac but it is pink in certain places now. It has been about 4 years but I will be fully sanding back, treating the latest rust and spraying with auto paint next year. (hopefully).
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1984 LT31 2.4 petrol Camper
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LTCamper89
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Posted: 18 Apr 13 at 06:24 |
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That looks really nice Mat.
 A bit of sunshine would probably help it along too.
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1989 LT28 2.4D Saviour of 6Music, well one of them. Now playing http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music
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Posted: 17 Apr 13 at 23:22 |
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A couple more pictures to maybe spur others on with the job!
  I've done the whole lower half of the van, and still impressed by the coverage - it looks as though I could get away with just one coat. I did prime most of the bare metal areas, so I suppose that helped. |
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AndyT
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Posted: 14 Apr 13 at 11:25 |
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Can I ask what colour, cos everyone knows red and dark blues fade over time.
When I get round to mine, might use a UV clear coat on top if this is the case. |
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bibblybobs
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Posted: 14 Apr 13 at 09:19 |
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Hi Rollered mine about 5 years ago. I then sprayed it in the same finish as I could see the roller lines in sunlight. I've got to be honest, I wouldn't use it again as it fades badly. One side of my van which is always in the sun is much lighter than the other side. Also, if you open the doors you can see the colur fade where the original paint has not been in the sun. Its very faded.
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1984 LT31 2.4 petrol Camper
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mat_the_cat
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Posted: 11 Apr 13 at 15:32 |
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It is handy, but I'm getting the use of it as a favour
 There are some people in this world who you have absolutely no problem in owing a favour to, and those who you'd rather not, if you see what I mean...I've spent about 2 hours so far just flatting down the panels to give a good key for the paint, and the end is almost in sight! I can't see me getting a coat of paint on this week though. |
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LTCamper89
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Posted: 10 Apr 13 at 16:10 |
Luxury. I used to dream of borrowing a barn. Once Littl'un moves out I will be finding a way of raising the over-garage bedrooms a couple of feet so I can get the bus under cover. Do not mention this to Dearly Beloved. Shhhh.
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Posted: 10 Apr 13 at 10:54 |
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Good luck Chris! I've made a start on mine - first of all I needed to deal with any remaining rust:
   This process was repeated several times! My aim wasn't to get a concours finish, so dents etc were left as they are. I just wanted something looking semi respectable and a uniform colour. I started the first side at the weekend...  ...and got one coat on (although the photo makes the colour look a little strange - the light was fading).  I popped the rear light back on as rain was forecast, so have now borrowed the use of a barn so I can strip parts off properly without having to worry about the weather.   Although I can't be 100% I thinned down the first coat enough, it went on very easily and bubbles disappeared with a quick light (literally just the weight of the roller) going over. I may have got the mix spot on, but I guess I won't know until I get it wrong and have trouble applying it! Very little orange peel from the roller too, however I am using the satin finish which will be more forgiving than gloss. Generally, roller pressure needed to be less than I first thought, but very easy to get the hang of. After I'd done the first side I had some left still in the tray, so (rightly or wrongly) tipped that back in the tin. I figured it would help with any solvent loss from evaporation while the tin was open. |
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Posted: 19 Feb 13 at 20:16 |
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I'll be starting the prep on out LT28 in the next week, seeing as we have had such glorious sunshine in the last couple of days looks like spring is here. We are both off work starting on Friday for two weeks so will have lots of time to get stuff sorted.
We are going to be painting either RAL5024 pastel blue which appears to be his original colour (God knows why Nu Venture changed it to what it is now it's awful) or the missus is hankering after RAL9010 to make her *think* she is in our old Joker ha :) I am fully aware there is a 160 odd page post on 80-90 which I have read through, but would like to specifically hear from people who have painted their LT28s/31s/35s and upload some photos like Carrotmans which show a splendid transformation. Thanks in advance. Will update here when we begin! |
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http://www.youtube.com/user/nonterraqueous/videos?view=0 - my youtube channel!
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Posted: 04 Nov 12 at 13:01 |
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Slowly!!
Eventually had to give up on the old mig and buy a new one which was painful, and a whole new experience. New machine is way more capable/complicated. Job has turned into a pain in the wotsit but it's getting there now, removed the last of the hidden filler and fabricated new sections. Also had to have sections of the channel which holds the door seals made for me. Not expensive but hardly an important job for the fabrication shop, so had to wait. Until I had these couldn't fabricate the supporting structure.... Just about there now in terms of new steel but it's all got to be done together so it aligns correct, i.e. sliding door, C pillar and rear wing. Until all the bits are in place can't start re-assembly. Wasn't happy with the first repair to the sliding door so chopped it out and started again, basically as I folded the skin over I managed to introduce a slight banana shape to the lower edge. Door then shut onto the channel for the door seal, which when investigated showed that bearing in mind the camper is a keeper it needed replacing. Anyway enough winging for now you get the idea, painting will happen as soon as it can but I'm not in a rush. Just priming as I go for now. |
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Posted: 04 Nov 12 at 08:43 |
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Hows it going Andy?
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Posted: 19 Sep 12 at 20:08 |
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hi ,
just finished giving my bus 6 coats of red rustoleim .and it turned out very good as im no painter ,its on page 28 of the ur van section , i love the stuff ,its what i need at a price i can afford ,what more can i say, cheers danny
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Posted: 14 Aug 12 at 22:28 |
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Just ordered some rusty stuff 5012 Blue and Satin White for the pop top +2L thinners from Rustoleum.co.uk. Free delivery but doesn't say when!!. Cost £80.
Soon (well hopefully) find out what it's like to use, will note temp/mix etc (by weight) and post pics in due course. Rollers, wet & dry I bought from Lawsons, again will report on quality etc. Bit stuck at the moment cos wire feed motor on mig is fubar, might have a part tomorrow, just hope it fixes it. |
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Posted: 03 Aug 12 at 12:48 |
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I rollered mine, a little impatiently I started it in Autumn and then spent many weekends waiting in frustration for the rain to stop so I could do a little bit more...
I experimented with a number of different consistencies of paint, the thinner consistency went on without so many bubbles and was much easier to 'work', I found it easier to layer a few thinner coats. I also found it useful to have a dry roller to hand to roll out the tiny bubbles, changing the roller over each time it became saturated. My first few layers on my van were fabulous, bright and shiny, I made an error on the final coat and it actually lost a lot of sheen. This was one of two factors, or possibly a combination of the two : either the weather was a little damp/ cold (not unusual in Manchester), or it was a result of using a cheap thinner. I suspect it's more of the latter as the coat was a little patchy. Fortunately this does seem to be coming out when I sand it with a very fine sandpaper (2400 grit) and the shine's coming back. The advantage of Rustoleum is if you don't like something, you can go over it and it's easy to touch up any minor scratches or marks. I'd be devastated if I paid a couple of grand to get a respray and then had any rust appear, on the truck it's easy and fairly cheap to sort it out. The Club 80-90 thread is a mine of useful advice although it takes a few days to get through it all.
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Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 12:36 |
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Having just used Vactan, i have reservations on its ability long term
I found that if you re applied a few times you could peel the stuff off, IMO its Phosphoric acid and PVA. The best results I obtained underneath were with a very thin coat of Vactan overpainted with some anti rust type stuff (bit like smooth hammerite) then stone chip then underseal
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Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 12:07 |
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Use Dinitrol myself.
Vactan is phosphoric acid based and have read bad stuff about fumes when welding through it. Not an issue if you are just painting over it. You can also buy 40% Phosphoric Acid solution on fleabay by the gallon fairly cheap. Needs washing off afterwards if painting as leaves a sticky residue. Think this is stronger than Vactan. Bags of cheap sponge brushes from pound shops are ace for application, unless they dissolve of course!!. |
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Posted: 30 Jul 12 at 10:19 |
I painted the rear platform I made in it and rust has started to come through. The steel was new but not shot blasted and I put three coats of combi colour on. It took about one year to start coming through. So, I would say a bit better than some but not a magic cure.
I painted some rust in 'rust bullet' which is ment to be a magic cure type paint but it has still some through that. It is the best stuff I have used, but it's expensive and a nightmare to sand, like concrete! Not sure if you have heard of it but 'Vactan' is also a good rust treatment. I found 'dabbing' it on with a sponge brush rather than painting it on makes it easier to sand ready for paint.
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Posted: 27 Jul 12 at 14:48 |
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Have a look on the 80-90 forum, topic on this is 6 years old and 150+ pages.
Reading it through myself slowly. http://forum.club8090.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=18751&start=60 |
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