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Jacobus
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Dear all, I've fitted the engine today! Yeay. Gearbox joined with the engine just perfectly, and with all parts from ultimate engineering, things went smooth. I bought the gearbox-front mount, so that was an easy fit, and I had the engine-cradle modified by a fried. anyhow: only problem I ran in to: The drive shafts. I got the pair adapters from UE, and the rightside is a perfect fit. On the leftside though, the driveshaft doesn't fit in side the circle of bolts. I mounted the adapterplate with the original hex bolts from the Audi drive shafts, and I think their heads are just a little bit to big, or the driveshaft/CV-joint is a bit to big? I had trouble enough since the angle is quite steep, but then I discovered the inner circle of the hex bolts is just to small. I used the bolts in this picture: The bus is lowered with the brickwerks lowering kit ( Bilstein B12 / Eibach 40 mm ), the engine cradle mounts are lowered 40mm and 10 mm forward, as specifications for UE's website, and I thinks everything else is still stock JX parts ( driveshafts ) The two driveshaft adapters were marked RIGHT and LEFT. The right is a thicker adapter, fitted on the right side of the car ( the NON turbo side of the engine) The LEFT adapter is a lot thinner, fitted on the turbo side of the bus. Because the adapter is thinner, the heads from the bolts stick out, and the CV-joint wont fit.. CV joint should be 100mm, the flanges on the box (TDI Audi) are 130.. ordered the adapters from Tim Shettle. y 130 - 100 = 30 mm space, diveded by two = 15 mm,. Are the heads thicker than 15mm? probably.. Could I just skim them, or use different bolts? Luckily I ddn't use threadlock on them yet.... (offcourse I allready DID :-) ) Any thoughts? pictures might help too! Edited by Jacobus - 10 Jun 18 at 21:26 |
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andy1300gt
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Did you move the gearbox mount over at the front to the second set of holes?
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It's all rust in the end....
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Jacobus
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Yes, from middle (diesel) to the rightside (petrol).. had a hard time since the threads had never been used and the bus has been coated in a thick layer of bitumen.. The angle isn't the biggest problem,. it's the diameter of the circle of bolts holding the adapterplate,.. they don't allow the CV-joint to touch the face of the adapter.
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Racebiz
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If i'm understanding your problem correctly, - having tightened up your adapter as you have by the sounds of it, remove one allen bolt at a time and file a small flat on the head to give just enough clearance. Once you have done this to all, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Jacobus
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Probably the way to go. Should have checked while the box was on the bench. Now it's in/under the bus,. I'll just break my back again :-)
On a side note: I did get the wiring ripped from the donor Golf while being a bit demoted,.. |
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Jacobus
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jeebus got that sorted!
Edited by Jacobus - 25 Jun 18 at 18:26 |
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Racebiz
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Thats looking fine.
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Guilar420
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Hi there I’m doing a 2.7t conversion and was wondering if I use the Audi box and flip how would I go about the breathers and oil level plus linkage? Thnx t
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VW Nerd
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I would consider that the Porsche 996 gearbox would be a better option for your engine for your 5 or 6 cylinder engine.
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
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Guilar420
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Would that be a straight fit with out flipping the box?
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Surfrider
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Porsche 996 or 997 gearbox is straight fit. Requires 1 lug hole to be moved.
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I BOOKED MY TICKET TO HELL ALONG TIME AGO.
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Guilar420
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Ok had a look at pricing or Porsche boxes can’t really afford them so I think I’ll have to make the Audi box work but I’m struggling to find gear ratios of some Audi box’s :( has any one got some pics of gear ratios plz 👌🏼😁
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VW Nerd
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There are some on this build thread.
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
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motrocco
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Hi there. Is there anyone actually doing this conversion these days? Would be very interested to know.
Someone in Ireland too as this is where I am based, but UK too.
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VW Nerd
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Flipping the gearbox from the Passat B5 or Audi A4 is still very much alive. Parts are available from Ultimate Engineering in the UK. Drop them a message for more info.
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
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gary1998
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two or three lads doing this in ireland ,, join the facebook page type2ireland and transporter owners ireland
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beware the fury of a patient man
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Expo1122
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Hello everyone. I have finally mounted the gearbox after about a year of collecting the parts. I ended up getting the gearbox machined using g a horizontal boring mill.
One question, is the engine supposed to be sitting on an angle afterwards? I drilled out my carrier bars to drop the engine 40mm and forward 10mm. Everything lined right up after moving the front mount to the right side holes, but now looking at the oil pan it is no longer level. I would say it's on a 15 degree angle or so. Is this okay? |
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VW Nerd
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This front to back engine angle is normal and is a result of lowering the gearbox to give better drive shaft CV joint angle.
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
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siddo
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Hi there this may seem a little off topic but I’m struggling for a solution at the moment, I have recently bought a TDI engine and box conversion that was done by ultimate engineering and taken it from a scrap van and put in to mine,i heard the van run but never drove it before removing.I have got it all running ok but for some reason when out on the road it will not rev over 2500rpm but will if your stood still. I have had It plugged in and it came up with egr fault and boost solenoid. But it is boosting as I put a live and earth to the solenoid direct as out the loom there was no live. I would imagine it’s a wiring mistake on my behalf but could anybody help point me in the right direction please?As at the moment it’s quite a pain.
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