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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bouldster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 12 at 21:04
fantastic tim!cant wait to see how you do im sure it will be superb after experiencing your brake upgrades first hand cheers phil
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camping Bazz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 May 12 at 23:11
How easy would this box conversion be if it bolted up to an AAZ, im thinking that you would have to lower the engine to accommodate the high driveshaft angle.
Would love a better ratio box for my AAZ Tongue
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Any news on the progress of the kit?
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Thanks for the interest. I am currently fitting an AFN (110bhp) diesel engine into a bus with the flipped gear box conversion. During the install I will be perfecting some of the fitting hardware. I hope to have the project finished in 1 month.

This gear box option will also work with AAZ with the correct flywheel and clutch from the donor car.


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I'm looking forward to these being available :)
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Hi Tim

Glad to hear things are still progressing, are you still going to be making a plate available for a 15 deg install as well as the normal 50 deg.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VW Nerd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 12 at 21:41
I have had plates made for 15 deg and 50. The plus side to using the 50 degree is that you can use a lot of std T3 diesel parts for the install, all tried and tested.

With the 15 deg, it will involve making new mounts for engine, an new exhaust from turbo to back box. fittings for back box etc. Not impossible, but just extra work.

Also I think that there is some comfort in using std off the shelf vw parts instead of custom made one offs. If you have to replace a broken off the shelf item, that's easy. If you have to replace a custom made part, that's an ass, when you are a long way from home and maybe don't speak the language.


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hi tim,


Im looking forward to fitting a flipped A4 gearbox into my baywindow which i fitted with an AFN motor 18 months ago,done 6000 miles mated up to a T3 5 speed with no troubles but really want low revs while cruising around the 65 -75 mph.
Will need a 15 degree plate ...... what else will i need ...drive shaft adapters...gear shift .... etc
Your help is really appreciated
ps....what overall length is the audi gearbox ?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Racebiz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 12 at 22:13
Appreciate where you are coming from Tim ref using std parts, it is a strong argument, I was also looking at it from the other angle as regards to fitting the engine as it is std and leaving the sump, dipstick, turbo drain hose etc as is - all be it I will have to doctor the engine lid.

please keep us all posted as you get nearer completion.
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The Audi box is 24 inches or 61cm long (overall length) How does this compare to the space available in a bay window of even a split.
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Thats about 3" shorter than a standard 1600 air cooled gearbox......good news should be plenty of room ,is a 6 speed A4 box also 24" ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 16vmini Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 12 at 08:00
this is all really interesting ...

i assume another option would be to get a new crown wheel/pinion machined like people have done with scooby box's ? so again it reverse's everything .. but would keep gearbox same position ?

but then you would be stuck with engine in same vertical position as in std passat ? can it be lowered enough to clear rear hatch ?

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There is no space in the gear box to flip the diff over to the other side.

I think that there is space for 15deg with the engine sat a little lower. Just means that you need to make up new exhaust engine cradle and exhaust fitting system. There may be some hose pipe fitting issues as well.

All can be over come with time and cash.

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aye , ok .. if you are going to lean it , you might as well really lean it :) 

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Some more progress photos.


The engine is now fitted although the front gearbox mount is being up graded with the gear linkage that puts all gears into the right order at the stick.


Drive shafts fitted

New engine mount made for right hand side of engine block (the std alloy item does not fit the In line AFN engine block.

Std alloy mount fitted to the left side (near side) of the engine block.


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cant see the pictures
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dyno Soar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 12 at 12:52
Why have all the pictures been deleted?

I think I am going to do this conversion on my SVX powered Bus.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VW Nerd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 12 at 13:06
The pictures have not been deleted.
Is there any moderators that can sort this out?

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pics showing for me Tim.
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