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    Posted: 15 Dec 10 at 00:03
Hi i have a problem with a 2005 transporter t30 130 auto,
we bought the van new and ran it to 156000 then sold it to a friend,
as i have vagcom i read the faults today and cleared any thing that was there.
This is the vag com report afterwards:
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.3
Data version: 20101206
Tuesday,14,December,2010,21:43:34:28495
Chassis Type: 7H - VW Transporter
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV1ZZZ7HZ5H075540   Mileage: 273520km/169957miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 AJ    HW: 028 101 156 8
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC G000AG  7002 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1339363
   Coding: 0001075
   Shop #: WSC 00252 210 60081
   VCID: 58B4968A9295
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X
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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.lbl
   Part No: 09K 927 750 H
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0620 
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 02737 785 00200
   VCID: 3A702C020CD9
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7H0-907-37x-ASR-F.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 907 379 G
   Component: ASR FRONT MK25      0103 
   Coding: 0007205
   Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
   VCID: 3972330E09DF
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7H0 820 045 AM
   Component: CLIMA/AC            0303 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70E4CE2A1A25
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 L
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  1901 
   Coding: 0000100
   Shop #: WSC 02756 785 00200
   VCID: 3B7E290603E3
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0008 
   Coding: 13123
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 2240F4628449
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 920 950 S
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03 
   Coding: 01412
   Shop #: WSC 00252 
   VCID: 3B7E290603E3
   WV1ZZZ7HZ5H075540     VWZ7Z0E1339363
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: F0E44E2A9A25
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
   Component: C2B Komfortgerát     0004 
   Coding: 00068
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 32600422D4A9
   Part No: 7H2959802
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0203 
   Part No: 7H2959801
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0203 
No fault code found.
End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
The flashing symbol is still on the dashboard and there doesn't appear to be any faults?
I scanned using 7H, is this the right one for a t5 with a lot of options?
Any other suggestions? It isn't in the manual!
 
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PS it's still on the original turbo!
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So is the flashing key on the dash your only issue? ie it still starts drives etc
 
Flashing key on dash would suggest an immobiliser issue....... 
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No it starts and drives fine, no other faults at all!
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I agree that it sounds like an immobiliser issue, but thought it would give a vag com fault, if i'm scanning on the right search, 7H 7G etc..
 
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That symbol usually means the ECU thinks a incorrect key (like a surf key) has been used.  It should come up with a code though.  Once it's cleared it will be ok unless whatever it is happens again. 
 
Odd you've got no codes.  I thought the immobilizer codes came under 'cent conv'.  You could try opening that controller individually and look for codes (hit 'c lear codes' even though none are showing or try opening the controller marked 'security' and see if VCDS can open it.  If it asks for a security code that's another problem.
 
Mind you if it's a fleaby copy VCDS maybe it's not showing all the codes (especially security related ones) Wink
 
Edit- 7H should be ok.  You can check on the chassis number if you are not sure.   Just noticed your VCDS version- not fleabay then...  What codes did you clear btw?  


Edited by T5 TDI - 15 Dec 10 at 09:52
2004 2.5 174
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The only 2 faults i cleared were a passenger window regulator fault from when the cables broke and a intermittent low air conditioning pressure alarm both of which have stayed cleared!
 
Had another go with the key problem by reading module 46 and even though no faults showed cleared them but no better, i managed to get into the adaptation menu and found in option 1 you can add extra keys so i was wondering about re adding both his keys?
 
Has anyone played with this? I haven't tried disconnecting the battery yet for a bit to see if that gets rid of it.
 
Also in the adaptation menu were all the options for auto lock, bleep on alarm setting, lights flash on locking etc... it's brilliant what you can change!
 
Thanks for any help!
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The security option is grey'd out, do i need to log in to access it?
 
Does anyone know the log in details?
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If the keys are starting the van ok you shouldn't need to.  The van would cut out immedately after starting if start if any key isn't recognised. 
 
No problem playing with the lock beeps/auto locking etc in that controller if you use the fixed menu.  Don't make any adaptions via the 'coding' option until you know how it all works.
 
Another fun thing to do is run the test function in the instruments controller (17) and watch all the instruments do a sweep.  Then all the warning lights come on in turn plus other things.  Cool  While you there have a look at 'measuring blocks' and see if it lists any warning lights as being 'on'.
 
When opening the engine controller be careful to only use the 'measuring blocks' and 'fault codes' functions because you can do some damage to the engine or at least make it impossible to start by changing codings etc there. 
 
I can't really think what could cause the warning light and yet leave no codes Confused but don't delete any keys unless you are organised with the SKC code (secret key code) for the van and the procedures to adapt the keys.    


Edited by T5 TDI - 18 Dec 10 at 18:54
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