Tyre Choice

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   I am looking into buying some new tyres for my syncro 
I am wanting to go to 16" on some nice alloys not yet bought.
I have some macho's at the moment 205/75/15 but they are not really suitable for every day or long motorway trips.
Did go to Camper Jam but they were a bit tyreing.

Ratio I have is 5.43:1 so 16" should be ok GoWesty use 215/70/16 with this ratio.

The tyres I am thinking about I have listed and prices I have found.

225/70/16

Cooper Disco ATR     £67.80
                      HT       £66.50

Kumho    798            £62.84

215/70/16

General Graber   AT2  £80.60
                           UHP £78.90

Kumho    825              £61.30

Cooper zeon xsta       £68.70

215/75/15

BFG MT                       £86.90

General Graber AT2   £68.00

KUMHO KL78              £64.00

Toyo Open county AT £59.00

235/70/16

Kumho KL78               £66.82

I have put some links to reviews

Like everybody I want good off-road, great on road, quiet cheap.

Any thoughts

 http://www.4wdaction.com.au/tips_tyres.php

http://www.coopertyres.com.au/news/coopers_win.htm

http://www.4x4tirereview.com/

http://www.opony-4x4.pl/TEST.pdf

Edited by David Pickles - 25 Feb 10 at 14:27

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David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Tyre Choice Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 14:06
	I am looking into buying some new tyres for my syncro I am wanting to go to 16" on some nice alloys not yet bought. I have some macho's at the moment 205/75/15 but they are not really suitable for every day or long motorway trips. Did go to Camper Jam but they were a bit tyreing. Ratio I have is 5.43:1 so 16" should be ok GoWesty use 215/70/16 with this ratio. The tyres I am thinking about I have listed and prices I have found. 225/70/16 Cooper Disco ATR £67.80 HT £66.50 Kumho 798 £62.84 215/70/16 General Graber AT2 £80.60 UHP £78.90 Kumho 825 £61.30 Cooper zeon xsta £68.70 215/75/15 BFG MT £86.90 General Graber AT2 £68.00 KUMHO KL78 £64.00 Toyo Open county AT £59.00 235/70/16 Kumho KL78 £66.82 I have put some links to reviews Like everybody I want good off-road, great on road, quiet cheap. Any thoughts http://www.4wdaction.com.au/tips_tyres.php http://www.coopertyres.com.au/news/coopers_win.htm http://www.4x4tirereview.com/ http://www.opony-4x4.pl/TEST.pdf Edited by David Pickles - 25 Feb 10 at 14:27
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

monkey magic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 24 Sep 08 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 407	Post Options Post Reply Quote monkey magic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 17:28
	From research and NOT experience, similar criteria, I came down to BF Goodrich AT/KOs or the Grabber AT2s, seem to be the best all rounders. How come you havent listed the BF Goodrich AT/KOs? Price? If you decide on 15's I have some nice 15x7 powder coated pentas going on ebay soon.. mm Edited by monkey magic - 25 Feb 10 at 17:29
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syncrostan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 27 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 382	Post Options Post Reply Quote syncrostan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 17:44
	I run the Toyo,s more a mud/snow tyre,but performed great in the snow and ice recently.I only bought them because at the time there was a strike in the states,and you couldn,t get BFG/General Grabber for love nor money,i have been pleasantly surprised,but,from experience with the Doka i wouldn,t go past BFG A/T,you pays your price.

..lee.. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak Joined: 14 May 08 Location: llanelli swales Status: Offline Points: 1420	Post Options Post Reply Quote ..lee.. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 21:21
	i`ve got at2`s with no complaints not noisey v hard wearing and reviews from american sites rate them above bfg. just put kl71`s on my delica and they are awsome my mate has run then on his landy aswell as bfg mt`s and the bfg`s are no where near as good. " his words" the kl71`s are reasonably quiet but not as quite as the at2`s.

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 22:37
	Any one know what these alloys are off on this go-westy syncro. Really like them http://www.gowesty.com/sale_details.php?id=241#
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 22:38
	http://www.gowesty.com/sale_details.php?id=241#
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

Baxter Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Scruff Daddy Joined: 29 May 04 Location: Huddersfield Status: Offline Points: 8060	Post Options Post Reply Quote Baxter Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 10 at 22:53
	When you have made your choice, give us a nod, I have a tyre machine and can get tyres, won't waste my time pricing loads up but when you decide let me know and I'll see if I can better it.

Reco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 28 Jan 09 Location: Essex-Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 299	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 10 at 15:49
	So what did you go for? I've been looking for set of ATs for months - good with mud/wet grass but quiet and good on road. Cheers for putting reveiw links up but the more reveiws I read the less clear it seems to get Aussie review above looks good and puts pirrellis are top, which is annoying as had decided on these some time ago (and were on offer!) but I read reveiw (can't remember where now) at the time said they were "hopeless in the mud" Interesting the cooper reveiw has used same Aussie data but removed the bits they didn't do well in to get highest score! Any more opinions re best ATs?
	92 syncro rhd 2.1 pop-top 90 syncro rhd aaz pick up

syncrostan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 27 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 382	Post Options Post Reply Quote syncrostan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 10 at 17:56
	Most all terrains are pretty crap in mud, that,s why most Syncro owners who go offroad regular will run mud terrains full time, or have a set of each. For a full time mud terrain Bfg,s are a good choice.

Reco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 28 Jan 09 Location: Essex-Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 299	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Mar 10 at 21:42
	yeah I know but that bloody noise when running MTs on the road! So looking for a compromise - some ATs better than others but which is best? Trouble is theres too much choice an I'm thinkin too much an should just go buy BFGs - at least they'll last 60k and say fook it. just com back from pub btw
	92 syncro rhd 2.1 pop-top 90 syncro rhd aaz pick up

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Mar 10 at 21:47
	Fitted some BFG All Terrains 225/75/16 really happy with them nice and quiet on the road. Not tried them in the Mud Yet
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

Reco Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 28 Jan 09 Location: Essex-Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 299	Post Options Post Reply Quote Reco Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 10 at 12:53
	Fap me they fill yer arches! Tres cool! No rubbing then at that size? -or you got a lift kit/spacers?
	92 syncro rhd 2.1 pop-top 90 syncro rhd aaz pick up

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 10 at 17:08
	Haven't rubbed yet not been off road though. Front springs stock 2WD Rears got Brickwerks spacers on. Spoiler taken off now
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

slobbo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 19 Sep 06 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote slobbo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 10 at 23:44
	These are my new wheels and tyres. Wheels are ZCW Force Shadow 16"x7 40 offset - cost £430 for 5 and they are rated at 1150kg per corner. Tyres are HANKOOK RF10 DYNAPRO ATM HANKOOK RF 10 - 225/75R16 106T TL - Great tyre - as good as the Bfg ATs (had them on my last Syncro) but only cost £70 ish each. Edited by slobbo - 19 Apr 10 at 23:47
	Cheers Rob.

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 10 at 09:50
	Look good do they catch at all
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

slobbo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 19 Sep 06 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 89	Post Options Post Reply Quote slobbo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 10 at 11:23
	No they are 6.5 j and I don't get any rubbing. The old ones did same tyres but on 8j rims. Same spacers used
	Cheers Rob.

spg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak ALIVE! Joined: 24 Nov 07 Location: Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1011	Post Options Post Reply Quote spg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 10 at 13:56
	Hi Dave I have 235 75 15 BFG Muds on 7j rims. Very loud but they have lightened the steering up loads. I have sectioned the front arches by about 35 mm so no problem with rubbing. Sitting on standard syncro springs all round at the mo.
	1985 Fischer converted Syncro now running on LPG (sometimes) 1965 Split Panel (in bits)

David Pickles Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 23 Jan 06 Location: West Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Pickles Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 10 at 19:47
	Looks Good
	1990 1.9td SYNCRO DOKA 1988 1.6td SYNCRO AMBULANCE 1989 2.1i LPG Camper

spg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Vanorak ALIVE! Joined: 24 Nov 07 Location: Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1011	Post Options Post Reply Quote spg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 May 10 at 20:03
	Cheers Dave I just looked at the fronts on yours again I do like those rims, are the tyres as close to the arch as it appears in the pic
	1985 Fischer converted Syncro now running on LPG (sometimes) 1965 Split Panel (in bits)

Beelzibus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Yardie Joined: 05 Jul 09 Location: Suffolk Status: Offline Points: 331	Post Options Post Reply Quote Beelzibus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 10 at 22:58
	I'm running Toyo Open Country ATs on my Westy Syncro. I can't compare them to anything other than a motley selection of stock size normal tyres of indeterminable parentage, however I'm very very impressed. Good on road in the dry or wet, not at all noisy, look decent, butch but not too OTT. Mine are 215/75/15s on Merc steels. I do about 50 miles a day.