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Topic: EJ22 Engine
Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 20:32

hi, am wondering if you can help, l had my VW 1990 fitted with a EJ22 one and a half year ago, l seem to lose a lot of power and don't respond when l put my foot down on the peddle, l change the leads / fuel filter / sensor on the exhaust pipe and even put injector fuel cleaner in the tank, please tell me you can help or know anyone else who may know what my problem is.
Robert

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Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 21:51

What faults are flashing up????

home brew camper

2.2 scooby lump in the back

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Vanorak

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Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 22:58

yep need to know what error codes you have.

Poss air flow but just a guess with out codes.

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Posted: 20 Feb 10 at 08:41

there nothing flashing up or error codes, just have been told there no engine management plug to connect to, and find what wrong with it, as for poss air flow how do l adjust it, all there is at the end of this pipe is a small box then a fairly big round air filter.

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Posted: 20 Feb 10 at 09:12

CHUG A CHUG wrote:

just have been told there no engine management plug to connect to

Oh dear.

Vast majority of things are controlled by the engine management, if you can't plug in to get error codes then you're pissing in the wind finding whats wrong. Its an essential part of a conversion to have the plug and reeks of a bodged install.

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Vanorak

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Posted: 20 Feb 10 at 13:30

HAve to agree. No plugs does mean its abit of a lash up. In the loom around by the ecu should be 2 black wires with spade connectors on. These plug together and then flash an buld which is connceted in to give you error. ONly suggesting air flow and there is no adjustment. You cannot really adjust anything as it all controlled by ecu.

Air flow meter is black box with brown or green sticker directly after what sounds like a cone filter.

really need to get loom sorted to get codes as you really are pissing in the wind with no info to go. Only other waywould be to get test procedures and data for each engine sensor and eliminate 1 by 1 after testing but this way is time consuming and may not get you any where. Who did the conversion?

michestar

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Posted: 20 Feb 10 at 13:40

big round air filter a KN style then..........great for dry weather but will let more moisture through than standard airfilter,MAF's dont like too much moisture.

if you keep the KN style filter avoid speeding through puddles,splash onto exhaust = lots of steam!

the leads and mosisture will give a similar effect being so deep in the heads.

checked your fuel pump? getting it running then clamp the line out of the pump to see if it holds pressure.

my money is on the maf being up the creek.

hope you dont have a 22680AA190 maf................!

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Posted: 21 Feb 10 at 20:21

it was install by A.M.R. Motors in Suffolk. VW Specialists, gave them a ring on Sat to ask where the management plug is, he told me to get the garage who trying to fix my van to give him a ring, will be doing this on Wed's, as for the air filter, am going to get the proper box for this engine, and check the fuel pump as suggested, someone also said to check the fuel relay in the ecu, could this also cause some problem

michestar

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Posted: 21 Feb 10 at 21:15

so its a tsr conversion being amr motors......

a bit more of detailed description of exactly what the symptoms of the problem is will help everyone help you.

you say it seems to lose power and not respond.......so it'll be fine and then lose lack/power ?

run lumpy at all? runs but just flat?does it hunt at all through the revs when idling?

one very simple thing to check is are you getting full throttle? the tsr throttle cable is a bit suspect being the vw and subaru jointed by choc block type affair! if one slips you wont get full gogo....

my tsr conversion had no engine earthing relying only on the gearbox earthing.the engine needs really good earthing....

fuel relay is a possibilty,i'd imagine that if it were suspect it'd not run at all.

out of interest where is the ecu mounted..........please tell me its not in the engine bay?

Edited by michestar - 21 Feb 10 at 21:17

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Posted: 21 Feb 10 at 21:34

everything you say is how my engine running, the ecu is under the rock&roll seat, how can l add extra earthing, and will look at the throttle cable

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Posted: 21 Feb 10 at 21:56

as my van going in 1st gear, it start going a bit slow, than all suddenly pick up very fast, this also happen in 2nd & 3rd gear, while in 4th gear, if l am going about 60mph and slow down to 30mph, l can put my foot down on the peddle, and nothing happen no pull, it also jerk a bit, l love my van to bits, but know nothing about engines, this is a learning curve for me

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Posted: 21 Feb 10 at 23:35

its tsr conversion so its going to be a learning curve........!

stick with it though i'm no subaru engine guru,but have lived with mine for 5 or 6 years now.

nice to see they've figured a better place for the ecu as mine was under the rear vent in engine bay so no good when jet washing !

make the throttle linkage your first line of investigation........i doubt it is this but it'll eleminate it for a start!

check for any snags etc from pedal to throttle body.get someone to depress the pedal and check the throttle is fully open on the throttle body.

depending on which maf you have there is adjustment but dont go near it, it is factory set

is there any difference in the running from cold or do the sysptoms remain the same wether hot or cold?

cant remember exactly where but i found a threaded lug on the engine case i bolted an earth strap to the chassis using one of the engine mount bolts.make sure you are the chassis side of the rubber engine mount though.

again i doubt this will fix the problems but will help/eleminate things.

when i had your engine running problems by a process of luck,trial and error, throwing spanners, cussing and drinking tea it turned out to be 2 things, MAF first and foremost and a duff coolant temp sensor.

it is possible to have the diagnostics reconnected but you will need to find the right plugs and colured wires to solder back onto the wire tails from the correct ecu pinouts.its a job im yet to do......

do you know what year car the engine car from?find this out and get yourself onto > http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/ theres some really helpfull people here who know way more than me!

a lot of people will cuss the tsr conversion.....if the cussers would like to set up shop to compete and better the tsr conversion for the money then good luck to them...