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Tinman
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Apparently the key from Vw is expensive.
I was gonna offer the engine up for sale on here, But if I'm not able to get it running then I guess I'll break it up on e-bay.
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Full Throttle
Vanorak Joined: 08 Jun 05 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1829 |
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Pritty sure VW do it the same way but charge a few quid for the service and wont do it if you have no documents proving the vehicle is yours etc.
Where did your chap get the chip from ?
Had a look at my chip a while ago and dont remember seeing any contact pins, how did he program it with his laptop.
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subwoofer
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There are immobilizer emulators out there, costing about 50£ off the Interweb. Sounds like it is worth a shot? Then you don't need the immo box, nor the coded key, it simply works like any standalone ECU would.
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Joachim
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VW Nerd
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As I have had a T3 stolen in the past, I think it is well worth keeping the immobiliser. You also only need to look on the stolen van pages to see how much of a target our vans are these days.
I did not watch the guy create the chip for my key, I just let him get on and do his job. I gave him the black box which he took into his van. 5>10 minutes later he came back with a cut key with a chip fitted to it. I guess that he has a device to hold the chip while it is being programmed. |
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
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Tinman
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How much was is? and do you have his number?? |
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VW Nerd
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I think it cost £100 for the key and chip
The guy is called Andy Morgan tel 07899043902 He may be able to come out to you at Radstock, if not drop your immobiliser box over to me and I'll get him to do it here. Don't forget to bring your van key for him to copy. Tim |
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Developing parts for the VW T3 TDI market Inc flipped audi gearbox install parts.
Tim Shettle www.ultimate-engineering.co.uk Bristol Tel/txt 07810 320 464 AFN TDI Panel Van |
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iow
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Hi has any one used a KWP2000 chip programer on there TDI ? I am having problems with the one in my boat only seem to get half power ?
When I try to read info from ECU gives me number's of ECU but then tells me to pull fuse 11 and turn back on .That's as far as it goes it will net read the ECU it has got to point it is driving me nut's ant idea's any one ??
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There must be a better way
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Catalin_BN
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Hello guys, I need some info because the Immo drives me crazy. I made a ecu / ip upgrade, I have 2 Ecu msa 15, with immo and everything. If i respect the wiring posted above, engine starts without chips near the coil. With vcds, immo box says that start is permitted, talks to ecu and key is not recognized. No matter how I do it, it won't kill the engine. Tell me that I'm crazy when everybody wants immo off, I want immo on... :)). I really need some info because if I look in every wiring diagram, pin 61 from ECU means Immo, or Immo and OBD line. So, that means pin 2 and 3 from immo box must be joined together and then to diagnostic plug? I'm correct ? Please help me clarify this! No matter how I tried, I still get the same error from Immo box: 00546 - Data Wiring faulty: Implausible Signal My current wiring, pin 61 from ecu goes to Immo box, pin 3 from immo box goes to diagnostic plug. - is this correct ? Edited by Catalin_BN - 26 Oct 16 at 12:51 |
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Scimdiesel
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Please post if you find a solution. Pre engine install I started the engine on the floor and it needed the chip to be near the ring in order to remain running. After install I put all the immo stuff in a sealed box in the engine bay. A few months later I thought i''d like an immobiliser and extended all the wires to the front. Went to start it and it started fine. I was quite relieved it still started except!!! The immo chip was no ware near the ring. In fact I could disconnect the black box and starts and runs fine. At the time a mentioned it on here and was told lots of the original ecu never had the immo part switched on. I've assumed since that the initial apparent working of the immo with the engine on the floor was actually just air in the ip.
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Without engineers science is just philosophy..... Joined the revolution with a 18 year old TDI :
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Catalin_BN
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I dont know what to say. First time I tried 2 ECU msa 15 and with both of them car started and then stopped after 2 seconds.
After the immo wiring, it doesn't matter if I have the box plugged or not still starts. Same here, please if you find anything let me know. PS What is the engine check light on msa 15? all wiring diagrams says is pin 61 for us models, well that does't work, my ecu is european.
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Scimdiesel
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Sounds exactly like mine. I find it hard to believe that there is a get around the immobilizer by wiring the ECu or immobiliser wrong. I was also told which may not be true that if the voltage is to low the engine might start then cut out again like if the immobilizer is activated. In normal use the alternator would cut in and boost the voltage but when I started mine on the floor the engine had no belts on it.
There is no engine check light on he European models. The Glow plug light flashes angry if there is something worth being angry about. Maybe one day I will try a spare ECU, black box and chip and see what happens.
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Without engineers science is just philosophy..... Joined the revolution with a 18 year old TDI :
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Catalin_BN
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I tried 2 ECU and 2 immo boxes and it is the same thing. Tried pin 60 and yes, it works as the CEL
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