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Vanorak Joined: 08 Jun 05 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1829 |
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Posted: 27 Apr 09 at 11:56 |
This works for vw golf 1.9 1z engined model yrs 1994/1995 with 68 pin ecu's
This enables you to remove the instrument cluster and still keep the immobiliser and electronic pump.
You will need the black box immobiliser, original key, ignition key transponder reader and the ecu from the same car.
How to wire the Black box immobiliser.
2 connectors one is three pin the other is 6 pin. The 3 pin goes to the transponder reader. The 6 pin connector is numbered if you look at the end of it. 1 to 6 So starting with pin 1 1= Black , connect this to a switched 12v i.e ignition 2 = Grey/ White, goes to the ecu 3 = Grey, goes to Diagnostic plug, but changes to a grey and white at the diagnostic plug end. 4 = Brown, Earth 5 = Not connected 6 = Brown, earth
Pin 1 was connected to the golf instrument cluster and got it's 12v feed from there.
If you removed the cluster( no 12v to pin 1) it would start for 3 seconds then stop.
If you use this information and it works for you please add what year and model of car you used.
This conversion is time consuming especially on the wiring side, so i would recommend you pay someone else to do it. when you work out how many hours it takes to do it, you soon realise it's worth the money.But if you are prepared for do it your self this info will help you get past the last stage. i.e getting it started for the first time.
This may work for vento's jettas etc, with a 1.9 1z tdi engine with 68 pin ecu's.
If you know how to get other vw tdi engines working electronically without instrument clusters etc that would be good info to add to this thread.
We all need help when doing conversions so it's only fair to put something back into the knowledge pool.
Anyway good luck and lets us know if it works for you.
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jamie masters
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All the infomation i get and what i need i would most certanly share with anybody else doing the same converision. thanks j.
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ROB1N
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Cheers it worked the engine I used is from a golf tdi its a 1z and a 1994 model.
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mazz
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Hi i know this works as i have done it sevral times before, i dont understand why people think the wiring is so complicated,its very simple,the hardest part is making the new engine mount
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ROB1N
Yardie Joined: 02 Jan 06 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 367 |
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Then wiring is very simple if you have the wiring diagrams in this case i didnt
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Vw's are for life .
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jamie masters
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hi! thanks for info just need to no were diagnostic plug is located. it starts then stops. havent conected the grey up yet. many thanks. j
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Baxter
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I just pulled one out of a Golf, no immobiliser, bonus!
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jamie masters
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any help with the grey wire please baxter??? its almost there. then i can start on sorting out the body abit. its all diy here. cheers j
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Vanorak Joined: 08 Jun 05 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1829 |
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Do you have a wiring diagram. ?
If not there is one here:
The grey wire (pin 2) on the connector goes to the ecu.
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Vanorak Joined: 08 Jun 05 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1829 |
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I heard there were some early tdi's without immobilisiers.
What year was it. ?
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T3di
Vanorak Joined: 23 Aug 05 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 3099 |
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mines one.
93 is the year stamp on most stuff on it |
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Baxter
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Yeah, M plate Golf the one I have.
Just makes me wonder if you can use the ECU's from these early ones on later systems, would have to check pin data.
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jamie masters
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many thanks will try it and see what happens. cheers j
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The golf i got mine from was an M reg from memory, must have been the change over year as mine had the immo. |
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Baxter
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Can you get to the ECU for the part number, could be an interesting thread, find out which ones do and don't.
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jamie masters
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yippee its running! thanks to everyone who has helped so far. engine is 1.9 tdi from a golf estate 1995. 100k on clock. so chuffed. cheers j
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iow
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What is the min amaount of wires you need to run a TDI engine ? as want to put one in a boat
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There must be a better way
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ecu is 68 pin but many commons are used .Every sensor on the engine seems to have its own yellow&black,an some join up in the loom.
Edited by T3di - 07 Aug 09 at 08:25 |
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iow
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Have to say in my case it is the immobiliser that I could do with getting rid of don't need it on a boat lol
Also the fly by wire throttle is some thing I could do with out if there was a way round it wires and salt water don't seem to mix well.
Still I pick the car up this afternoon so will see what has to be done hope I can mate it up to the leg.
I have to say 10 out of 10 to this site I have spent day's looking at the web for info on Ford engines with out much luck I came to this site found all I wanted to know in 10 min's and you all seem to be very helpful keep it up it is good to see some one doing it right
Gord
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iow
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Hi well got the car engine out it is a M reg no immobiliser thank god . What a baby Turbo what does it boost to ?
But have a few problems to get over you might be able to help me with.
1st is the starter comes in from the gearbox do VW do a starter and flywheel for this engine that come's in from the engine ?
2nd slight oil leak from rear crank oil seal ? Does this mean the main's are on there way or is this common?
3rd does any one make adapter plates to fit Ford gear box or OMC leg ?
Sorry if this is off topic but you guy's seem to know all the in's and out's
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