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Excellent advice Baxter, cheers! I've just connected  the radio and cigar lighter (and interior lights) to my newly-fitted leisure battery system; no problems at all!

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Originally posted by badger badger wrote:

Carried out this mod on a westy today, but the wiring at the rear of the fusebox was slightly different. Connected the aux battery supply to the wire from pin 12 of the red plug (only a single wire) which then connected the interior courtesy lighting, the strip lights and the radio to the aux battery, but the cig lighter socket was dead (despite working earlier). I replaced the 15a fuse into position 3 and the cig liter was then live (remember this is with the wire from pin 12 disconnected).
After a little head scratching and looking at the wiring diagram, i discovered an additional supply from pin 11 which feeds direct to the cig lighter. Once this was cut and connected to the aux batt supply, everything worked as it should.
Maybe late van's have a slightly different wiring loom??


That's strange, I came on to post something very similar, I cut the two wires that go to pin 12, connected to the aux battery, only to find the cig lighter dead, again replaced fuse 3 and it's OK again. I'll have a look at pin 11. Cheers.
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Carried out this mod on a westy today, but the wiring at the rear of the fusebox was slightly different. Connected the aux battery supply to the wire from pin 12 of the red plug (only a single wire) which then connected the interior courtesy lighting, the strip lights and the radio to the aux battery, but the cig lighter socket was dead (despite working earlier). I replaced the 15a fuse into position 3 and the cig liter was then live (remember this is with the wire from pin 12 disconnected).
After a little head scratching and looking at the wiring diagram, i discovered an additional supply from pin 11 which feeds direct to the cig lighter. Once this was cut and connected to the aux batt supply, everything worked as it should.
Maybe late van's have a slightly different wiring loom??
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I ran the wire under the carpet and underlay following the edge of the wheel arch then up along the edge of the seat.  I wrapped the wire in insulation tape and gaffa taped it to the floor.
 
Ive driven and lived in the van every day for the last 3 months (in Spain).  I checked the wiring today and all is well - no wear at all. 
 
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Ran mine under the carpet, sandwiched into the underlay with some protection over the top of it. No wear on it as it`s covered.
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Originally posted by Stoooooo Stoooooo wrote:

any thoughts on the best route for the wire from the leisure batt (behind drivers seat) to fuse box.  There's not really a good route up the door pillar so Im thinking under the carpet and foam underlay - is this OK?  Bit concerned it will be more subject to wear and tear.
 
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What was the general consensus on this route?
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thats where my goes,  but doesn't mean its right :)  The cable I have used is pretty well insulated and been ok since mod.
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Hi All
 
Just about to start this mod.....any thoughts on the best route for the wire from the leisure batt (behind drivers seat) to fuse box.  There's not really a good route up the door pillar so Im thinking under the carpet and foam underlay - is this OK?  Bit concerned it will be more subject to wear and tear.
 
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I've now taken my first step in auto-elecs and have successfully made this modification.
 
Many thanks to this forum without which i wouldn't have dreamed of attempting such a thing!
 
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Thanks for that.
 
I'm now looking at back of fuse box. When refering to pin 12, how can i locate this?
 
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Couldn't tell you where the earth runs to via the wiring loom; but if you want to wire a fresh earth connection to the radio, if you look behind the fusebox, in the top left corner you'll see a terminal ring screwed to the bottom of the A post - should be some spare terminals on there, just run a wire from your radio to this earth ring. 
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Hello
 
I'm new to this excellent forum, and found this a very useful thread.
 
I've just attemtpted to install a blaupunck radio/cd in my newly acquired 1990 Atlantic.
 
I've got the thing connected up okay. It works - but it switches off, when i switch-on the headlights! having looked behind the fuse box, there are all manner of previous lash-ups and wires hanging about. I've tidied these up as best I can, taping and insulting. But why the radio circuit is affected by the headlights I can't determine, and not sure how to.
 
I most definately think radio/interior lights etc should run from the leisure battery and would like to make this modification, thereby i hope also removing the headlight issue.
 
One question.
 
Where does the earth that runs from the radio go to? can it be that it's the earth that is somehow connected to the headlights circuit? If so, then changing the 12v supply would make no difference?
 
Thanks for any help!
 
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After a bit more dicking about i have discovered that they now are ignition live. This has only happened since the van has been to an auto electrician who was messing around with these circuits. So hopefully he will sort it out soon.
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If it`s been modded it could be a fuse hidden anywhere Confused. The pump etc runs through a fuse in the small fusebox behind the drivers seat. Check that it`s all Ok in there, it`s prone to overheating and getting a bit cooked so check the fuse holders are all OK, if it looks crap then fit a new fusebox of  the same type.
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Right...i have the early type fuse box with the bullet fuses. A technician from Summer town  motors in Broughnton, S.Devon. has so say done a similar mod that runs all the interior lights, fridge, water pump and stereo from the Aux battery. This was about 2 years ago and all has seemed to be fine.
 
However, since i rebuilt the interior after the respray the water pump for the tape is switched by the batt. indicator switch on the front of the westy cooker...rather than the tap micro switch. The tap still has a live and switch live. i have tried tracing all the wires and finding out what is going on and it all seemed as it should do. unfortunately being a bit of a numpty i messed about with things that i dont know about and tried conecting the live feed from the tap to the water pump direct. nothing happened accept now the interior lights dont work and niether does the stereo. The water pumpo does but still only switched by the batt. indicator switch. I have checked all of the fuses in the fuse board with a continuity tester, also the two fuses in the little boxy thing behind the drivers seat, also droped the fuse board and checked for inline fuses and they were fine, also taken the seat off and looked for any fuses there that may have b;lown...all fine.
 
Please give some sugestions as i dont want to re-feed supplies to the stereo and interior lights when there is probably just a fuse blown somewhere.
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Originally posted by dublicious dublicious wrote:

right sorted, apart from where the brown cable goes. I know it is an earth
as it is strapped to metal.

You dont need to cut cables, take connector blocks apart or anything :)

This is my method and feel free to correct me :)

1. Remove fuse no. 3
2. Run 17 amp wire with a 15 amp inline fuse from the leisure battery to
the fuse box and place a spade connector on the end of the cable.
3. With your radio on try placing the spade connector into the fuse
holder no.3. First try the bottom connector and if the radio comes on the
you are done

Simple




Thank you....
I have done this mod and it does work without changing the original specs.

It also was simple to remove two weeks later when I discovered that for some reason my second battery wasnt fit to start the eber any more.
I take it that only the main battery gets recharged first, and on short runs the second one never gets a "shot". No really sur though and everything works ok in the original configuration, so i'll leave that as it is.

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anyone in the herts area fancy popping round for a cuppa and showing me how to do this mod to my fuse box cheersWink
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Just a quick note - someone mentioned in the thread that the fridge only works with the engine running.  Infact, the 12v heating element only works with the engine runing - but the cooling fan cuts in and out whenever the temp around the heat exchanger gets above a certain level - either on gas, 12v or 240v. Normally only happpens in hot weather or if the bus is in direct sunlight and the interior temp gets up a bit.
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Not sure what the clock runs from, but my `van was parked for 6 weeks while I was outa the country and all batts where fine when I got back.
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does the rewire also swap the dash clock to the aux battery ? left mine for a while and it flattened the battery.
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