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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nicq Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 19 at 16:16
your probably not even half full
Mine is full waiting for the prats in Westminster so we can celebrate

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Ermm

Err, whatever...

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And to those who say that people always knew, when they voted Leave, that they were voting for 'No Deal' take a look at some of the statements pre-referendum from various politicians in this twitter thread:


Interestingly enough, the only politicians in any of those clips who clearly appear to be flagging up the risk that leaving the EU might end up with us leaving the Single Market were on the Remain side of the argument, and their contributions were labelled at the time as 'Project Fear'.

One other interesting statistic from ComRes polling that was done in 2016 a couple of weeks after the EU Referendum:

Responding to the statement:

Quote Following the result of the EU referendum, the UK will now have to negotiate a new deal on the EU single market. The EU Single Market allows countries in the EU to trade with each other without additional charges or regulation standards.  As part of this access, they must agree to rules allowing free movement of people including the right of EU citizens to be able to live and work anywhere in the EU.



To be clear - a minority of only 35% of Leave voters said that they expected we would 'Leave the EU Single Market and end rules on free movement', and means that the majority of voters, including a majority of Leave voters, had no idea that a vote to leave the EU might mean 'No Deal'.

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Quote It’s nearly three years since I, along with 17. 4 million other Britons, voted for Brexit. Today I have to admit that the Brexit project has gone sour.

Brexit has paralysed the system. It has turned Britain into a laughing stock. And it is certain to make us poorer and to lead to lower incomes and lost jobs.

We Brexiteers would be wise to acknowledge all this. It’s past time we did. We need to acknowledge, too, that that we will never be forgiven if and when Brexit goes wrong. Future generations will look back at what we did and damn us.

So I argue, as a Brexiteer, that we need to take a long deep breath. We need to swallow our pride, and think again. Maybe it means rethinking the Brexit decision altogether.

Nothing really to add to that.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote danstervan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 19 at 21:51
^^^ It's just a pity the guy you quote can't even use the correct terminology...
These feckin idiots spouting forth their views would have more credibility if they actually used words that accurately describe what they are discussing.
Where the fuck does "Britain" come into it? The UK is the member state.
That'll be the UK that is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
"Great" Britain being the term to describe the largest island in the British Isles which is a geographical landmass. The "Great" refers to greater in size, not "great" because it is great / brilliant. It's actually really shit for quite a lot of reasons. An archaic political system that has caused this clusterfeck being an obvious example.
The UK is a union between the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England (the latter of which includes Wales and Northern Ireland).
The two kingdoms may share the same person as queen but her status in each kingdom differs significantly. She is the Queen of England, but she is only the Queen of Scots. That's a big difference for those that have the capacity to comprehend what that means.
The inaccurate terms used by those in positions of power and influence as well as the mainstream media that use words such as "county", "nation", and "Britain" to describe the UK continue to misinform and further confuse an already pretty politically unaware electorate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clift_d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 19 at 22:22
it's probably an affectation to Brittania and Empire...

I'm fairly relaxed about that - I just find it interesting that people are finally starting to see the Brexit emperor has got no clothes. 

Hopefully it's not too late to do something about it. 

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The Pharmaceutical Services Negotiating Committee (PSNC) acknowledge that Brexit could be an exacerbating factor in the shortages that are being reported by pharmacies. although I'm sure some will try to say that it's just a coincidence that the list of generic medicines that are currently experiencing shortages is the longest since a list was first compiled in 2014, and double the level of shortages that were experienced last autumn.

Also the Epilepsy Society is monitoring a 'steep rise' people having serious issues obtaining necessary medication, and is calling for an urgent review of the supply chain. Again, I'm sure that some willl argue that it's just a coincidence that it's got so bad as we're on the verge of leaving the EU.

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Have you been mis-sold a "Brexit"...



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote donecan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 19 at 22:12
Originally posted by danstervan danstervan wrote:

Have you been mis-sold a "Brexit"...



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If only it weren't so true...
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In its defense the Telegraph said the article
Quote was clearly comically polemical, and could not be reasonably read as a serious, empirical, in-depth analysis of hard factual matters.

Just like BoJo methinks...


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Think this pair may have been out in the sun too long... Wacko


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I voted remain. Not for any political reasons because democracy passes me by. I'd like to think that I'm a European rather than a George Cross wielding white English man, even though I'm half Irish. There was never enough truthful discussion at the time of voting for this to be a fair and (if you want) democratic act. Mostly because no-one knew what leaving really meant, so a new vote is only fair considering we now know how we will be affected, well nearly know.
I don't have the fear of the "foreigner" like many do, when you go to their countries you see how alike we really are, and in some ways more friendly too.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote danstervan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 May 19 at 21:04
Live footage of the UK leaving the EU.  Ermm


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