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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote danstervan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 19 at 16:09
You know your political system is broken when the folk behind the parody effort have more wit and awareness than the real. LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clift_d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 19 at 09:17
Quite a list building up now and we're still more than a month away from crashing out:
Quote Sony
Dyson
Panasonic
Lloyds
Unilever
Goldman Sachs
Barclays
Airbus
Flybmi
P&O
HSBC
JP Morgan
UBS
Ford
Hitachi
Toshiba
AXA
Honda
Moneygram
Philips
European Banking Authority
European Medicines Agency
Bank of America


Although according to some none of this has anything to do with Brexit. It must just be coincidence.

Muppet of the day: John Longworth
Quote ... we don't need these multinational investors


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote danstervan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 19 at 23:45
Originally posted by clift_d clift_d wrote:

Although according to some none of this has anything to do with Brexit. It must just be coincidence.


Forgot to post this from last week. Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote clift_d Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 19 at 20:27
The government's published a summary of their no deal cabinet advice and it doesn't make for pretty reading, and that's just the sanitised version for public consumption.

And yet some of these muppets still claim leaving with no deal would be "better than a bad deal".
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The US governement has now published a Summary of Specific Negotiating Objectives for any trade agreement that they might make with the UK

A few choice items:

"Establish a mechanism to remove expeditiously unwarranted barriers that block the export of U.S. food and agricultural products in order to obtain more open, equitable, and reciprocal market access." i.e. remove food safety standards that act as a barrier to US agricultural products;

"Establish state-of-the-art rules to ensure that the UK does not impose measures that restrict cross-border data flows and does not require the use or installation of local computing facilities." i.e. your personal data can be moved around, stored in the US where it will be accessible by the US government, and used as per US standards;

"Establish rules that reduce or eliminate barriers to U.S. investment in all sectors in the UK" i.e. remove barriers to US companies bidding for NHS contracts;

With regard to government procurement "Providing impartial administrative or judicial review authority to review challenges or complaints.", i.e. allow companies to sue the government if they don't get a contract.

"Provide a mechanism to ensure transparency and take appropriate action if the UK negotiates a free trade agreement with a non-market country", i.e. allow the US to take action over other trade agreements the UK might wish to sign.

"Provide mechanisms for terminating the Agreement under appropriate circumstances", i.e. presumably allow the US to unilaterally terminate any trade deal;

There are also requirements for fewer restrictions on GM and other bio-engineered food, and a whole section at the end on measures to prevent boycotts of any Israeli products or services for whatever reason.

What do you reckon the odds are of the US getting whatever they want in a negotiation with Liam Fox - 100% or higher than that?

Apparently..."The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want" - Michael Gove, 9 April 2016
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"We want out the EU to regain our Sovereignty" they said. Then they give it straight away to the US. Confused

It's been the plan for long enough...



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The flow of incompetence continues...


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Now it's the turn of BMW and Toyota - both are now politely 'suggesting' that a 'No deal' Brexit will have an impact on the long term viability of their manufacturing operations in the UK, i.e. if it happens you can kiss goodbye to both the Cowley and Derby plants, and probably all the small business that supply parts and services to them.


Still, at least we'll have blue passports... which will be printed by the Franco-Dutch company Gemalto because the government didn't limit the contract to only home bidders, as other countries have done, and as they would have been permitted to do under EU rules. 

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This is worth flagging up...



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Here's an interesting one.

Apparently what you can see in the following image is a facility that the French are putting in place before passport control in Calais to check all motorhomes and caravans coming from the UK, and their gas systems, before they are allowed to enter the EU. More possible delays / problems ahead perhaps?



From Ciaran the van driver's twitter feed here
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Oh, and Primark are consolidating all their design, merchandising, buying, quality and sourcing operations in one office in...





That's 220 jobs moving from Reading to the EU.
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Have I missed anything?
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I'll just leave this here...



<SARCASTIC>  I wonder why there is so much opposition to putting the final deal to the people?  </SARCASTIC>


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if you research this was Hitlers dream. I want out . We were tricked into voting for the " common market" back in the 70's. your probably too young to know any differenceSmile 
It was never meant to be the USSEU. Well it probably was but they kept it secret , the eu and British government. 
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Originally posted by DUCASSOS DUCASSOS wrote:

if you research this was Hitlers dream. I want out . We were tricked into voting for the " common market" back in the 70's. your probably too young to know any differenceSmile 
It was never meant to be the USSEU. Well it probably was but they kept it secret , the eu and British government. 

What complete nonsense. If you can't make a valid point without resorting to Hitler association fallacies then you really haven't got a leg to stand on. And who do you really mean when you say 'they' as in 'they kept it secret'?


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read it mate, gov,eu.      Kalergi plan. research. don't want too get in discussion with ignoramous.
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