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roadhog
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Posted: 12 Mar 16 at 22:06 |
i laid up my t5 130 for five months. the battery went flat so i put it on charge and it fired up no problem, except the abs and handbrake lights stay on. i took it for a drive the speedo does not work and the fuel gauge seems to loosely follow the tacho , the yellow fault light comes on, the mileometer and trip do not work. when i start it there are three audible beeps, sometimes the handbrake light goes off when driving. before i laid it up it all worked faultlessly. also the abs does not work i can now skid to a halt. any help appreciated
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Berisford
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Crikey!
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Senate Square, Helsinki, 12 June 1993.
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VW master-tech
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Sounds like the abs control unit is knackered, a quick search on here will give you all the info you need
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T5 TDI
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Yep, MT beat me to the punch. I'm afraid those are classic symptoms. You will probably end up needing a complete ABS pump. There are endless threads on this here and also via google. You can try and get the ABS pump fixed but for this particular fault it will usually come back as 'unrepairable'. If you are paying for everything you are looking at close to £1000.
If only everything was as reliable as a Volkswagen eh?
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roadhog
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thats a bummer, any idea why not using the van would cause that?
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gregozedobe
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It might be worth checking that the alternator voltage isn't going too high when the engine is running. If it does this can cause a myriad of problems as VW controllers can't cope with too high a voltage. Look for a maximum of 14.5V when the engine is running. This may not be the cause of your problems but it is at least quick, easy and cheap to check.
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smidsy
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ABS units are very sensitive to voltage changes as it could be a fault on the braking system. i was recently looking at having to get a new abs unit but decided to have a go repairing it first. Reckoned that faced with a 1k+ bill i would have nothing to lose. for me it worked. before i had a go i made sure that nothing else could cause the problem, new battery, new fluids in the brake & clutch system, checked voltage at all the abs plugs on the wheel, wiggled the wires under the seat and reset the fault codes a few times. the job of repair basically involves taking the controller unit apart and resoldering the connectors, used these forum posts as a guide. http://newbeetle.org/forums/2-0-liter-gas/53360-how-i-fix-my-abs-pump-01276-without-paying-penny.html http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=211776.0 the inside of the t5 controller is not identical to those in the posts but the technique is the same. get the fault codes read and post them up on here. 01276 seem to be the death signal from the abs unit. |
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roadhog
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thanks for the info do the cheap fault code readers work? the wiring under the passenger seat is interesting as i have changed that seat. also if the worst comes to the worst do you know if the abs pump or control unit on the t5 is used on other vehicles?
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smidsy
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i use one of those cheap ebay leads and a copy of vag-com on the laptop. good enough for reading codes and clearing them. once tried a cheap RAC branded reader from argos. did not work on the T5 i noticed whilst reserching my problem that there are a few different types of controller just for the T5, wouldn't want to think about trying to use one off an other type vehicle. Also read that any new controller needs to be coded to your specific van. |
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smidsy
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One other thing is to check the fuses near the battery, there are a couple of 30amp fuses directly relating to the ABS and one 5 amp. A lot of the Tec guides point to starting there. take them out, give the contacts a clean and slide them back in and out a few times to make sure the connections are really good.
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roadhog
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thanks again for the info i will get a lead and have a go at the weekend
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Alonline
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Newer vehicles do not like the battery dying slowly no matter what make.
I use a solar panel thrown up on the dashboard and linked in to battery so as the sun rises the battery get a boost each day stopping the battery dying. I had similar problem twice on Porsche's and tech told me to keep them trickle charged if laying up or lift the battery out/ disconnect. Bit late for u though. |
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gregozedobe
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Can you swap in a known good battery just to see if that solves the problems for you ? Doesn't have to be the exact same size as the original.
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roadhog
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i can change the battery. the old one charged no problem and holds charge i have tested it with a volt meter it should be ok
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gregozedobe
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Unless you test with a large load tester (the ones that heat up like a toaster) then a battery may appear OK to a volt meter but not be able to deliver enough current when cranking the starter motor.
What is the voltage at the battery when the starter motor is cranking, and again when the engine has been running (fast, above idle) for several minutes ?
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Alonline
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A battery without load will tell you virtually nothing.
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Dub4life
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Actually the ABS repairs can be done by ECU testing Limited at a reasonable £200-300
I had mine rebuilt, it came back and ran super smooth for two years until last weekend, I think it's gone again..... but they do offer a lifetime warranty if it is! |
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Dub4life
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So, my dash has gone kaput too , Can network errors, gateway signal- comms fault, coincidently my van is now laid up and only gets a driven once a week??
So my question is: Anyone know how easy the clocks come out? Can anyone write a brief description or point me to a thread??
The garage said if I can do it myself I'll save money.
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T5 TDI
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There's a video here. The sensible part starts at about 1 minute in.
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Dub4life
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Thanks dude, Just as a matter of info for people:
A new cluster is £480 but if you part ex your fucked one they give you £204 back as part ex! TPS parts.
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