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Dear all,

I've fitted the engine today!

Yeay.  Gearbox joined with the engine just perfectly, and with all parts from ultimate engineering, things went smooth. I bought the gearbox-front mount, so that was an easy fit, and I had the engine-cradle modified by a fried.

anyhow: only problem I ran in to: The drive shafts.  I got the pair adapters from UE, and the rightside is a perfect fit. On the leftside though, the driveshaft doesn't fit in side the circle of bolts.

I mounted the adapterplate with the original hex bolts from the Audi drive shafts, and I think their heads are just a little bit to big, or the driveshaft/CV-joint is a bit to big?   I had trouble enough since the angle is quite steep, but then I discovered the inner circle of the hex bolts is just to small.

I used the bolts in this picture:

The bus is lowered with the brickwerks lowering kit ( Bilstein B12 / Eibach 40 mm ), the engine cradle mounts are lowered 40mm and 10 mm forward, as specifications for UE's website, and I thinks everything else is still stock JX parts ( driveshafts )

The two driveshaft adapters were marked RIGHT and LEFT.  The right is a thicker adapter, fitted on the right side of the car ( the NON turbo side of the engine)
The LEFT adapter is a lot thinner, fitted on the turbo side of the bus. Because the adapter is thinner, the heads from the bolts stick out, and the CV-joint wont fit..

CV joint should be 100mm, the flanges on the box (TDI Audi) are 130.. ordered the adapters from Tim Shettle.
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130 - 100 = 30 mm space, diveded by two = 15 mm,. Are the heads thicker than 15mm? probably.. Could I just skim them, or use different bolts? Luckily I ddn't use threadlock on them yet.... (offcourse I allready DID :-) )

Any thoughts? pictures might help too!


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Did you move the gearbox mount over at the front to the second set of holes?
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Originally posted by andy1300gt andy1300gt wrote:

Did you move the gearbox mount over at the front to the second set of holes?


Yes, from middle (diesel) to the rightside (petrol)..  had a hard time since the threads had never been used and the bus has been coated in a thick layer of bitumen..

The angle isn't the biggest problem,. it's the diameter of the circle of bolts holding the adapterplate,.. they don't allow the CV-joint to touch the face of the adapter.
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If i'm understanding your problem correctly, - having tightened up your adapter as you have by the sounds of it, remove one allen bolt at a time and file a small flat on the head to give just enough clearance. Once you have done this to all, there shouldn't be a problem.
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Probably the way to go. Should have checked while the box was on the bench. Now it's in/under the bus,. I'll just break my back again :-)

On a side note: I did get the wiring ripped from the donor Golf while being a bit demoted,..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jacobus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 18 at 18:24
Originally posted by Jacobus Jacobus wrote:

Probably the way to go. Should have checked while the box was on the bench. Now it's in/under the bus,. I'll just break my back again :-)

On a side note: I did get the wiring ripped from the donor Golf while being a bit demoted,..



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got that sorted!


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Thats looking fine.
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Hi there I’m doing a 2.7t conversion and was wondering if I use the Audi box and flip how would I go about the breathers and oil level plus linkage? Thnx t
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I would consider that the Porsche 996 gearbox would be a better option for your engine for your 5 or 6 cylinder engine.
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Would that be a straight fit with out flipping the box?
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Porsche 996 or 997 gearbox is straight fit. Requires 1 lug hole to be moved.
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Ok had a look at pricing or Porsche boxes can’t really afford them so I think I’ll have to make the Audi box work but I’m struggling to find gear ratios of some Audi box’s :( has any one got some pics of gear ratios plz 👌🏼😁
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There are some on this build thread.

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