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2006 LT35 AVR - Fuel Injection Quantity |
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mojo 
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 Topic: 2006 LT35 AVR - Fuel Injection QuantityPosted: 15 Dec 20 at 21:44 |
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Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone with the AVR engine could post their fuel injection quantity at idle on a cold start and when warm. (vcds display group 1 section 2). I've been having a bit of a rough idle on cold and severe engine shudder if I come off the gas and then lightly get back on it. It also cut out on me twice when cold and pulling away. It threw up two codes: 17970 - Quantity Adjuster (N146): Upper Limit Reached P1562 - 35-00 - - 17971 - Quantity Adjuster (N146): Lower Limit Reached P1563 - 35-00 - - I've checked out the fuel quantity adjuster and all associated wiring according to elsawin specs and everything checks out fine. I've increased the fuel injection quantity with vcds and it's solved the problems, but just wanted to compare with others FIQ to see if I'm just masking a problem with the higher FIQ. Thanks in advance. mojo |
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tellytubby
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Posted: 16 Dec 20 at 19:47 |
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Can't do it till weekend but I'll have a look then. Mine runs fine cold or warm.
Any other info you think you might want let me know. |
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Posted: 16 Dec 20 at 22:34 |
Thanks mate.....you're on my Christmas card list!
Would it be to much to ask for screen shots of all your measuring blocks, I'd be really interested to compare idle speed, air flow, boost pressure, smooth running control etc. I can post mine if you're interested. Thanks again appreciate it. |
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Posted: 19 Dec 20 at 16:28 |
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From Cold Saturday,19,December,2020,15:11:07:04550 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 15.7.0.2 Data version: 20150820 www.Ross-Tech.com ------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:11:49 Group 000 038 100 000 031 095 198 169 109 114 149 15:11:49 Group 001 775 /min RPM 6.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.580 V Voltage 18.9°C Temperature 15:11:49 Group 002 775 /min RPM 0.0 % Load 0 1 0 Bin. Bits 18.9°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:00 Group 003 775 /min RPM 600.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 465.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 4.8 % Duty Cycle 15:12:00 Group 004 755 /min RPM 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 6.2 °BTDC Ign. Timing 80.5 % Duty Cycle 15:12:00 Group 005 775 /min RPM 30.8 mg/str Inj. Quantity 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 19.8°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:10 Group 006 0.0 km/h Speed 0 0 0 Bin. Bits 00000000 Bin. Bits 255.0 (no units) 15:12:10 Group 007 12.6°C Temperature 8.1°C Temperature 20.7°C Temperature 15:12:10 Group 008 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.6 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:20 Group 009 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 51.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:12:20 Group 011 775 /min RPM 1142.4 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 27.1 % Duty Cycle 15:12:20 Group 011 775 /min RPM 1152.6 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 27.1 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:33 Group 012 11111111 Bin. Bits 3.42 (no units) 14.14 V Voltage 20.7°C Temperature 15:12:33 Group 013 -0.14 mg/str Inj. Quantity -0.14 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.02 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.12 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:12:33 Group 014 -0.05 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:44 Group 015 775 /min RPM 6.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.80 l/h Fuel Consump. 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:12:44 Group 016 99.6 % Load 00000000 Bin. Bits 00 Bin. Bits 14.14 V Voltage 15:12:44 Group 017 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:53 Group 018 0.0 km/h Speed 01 Bin. Bits 0.0 km/h Speed 0.0 km/h Speed 15:12:53 Group 019 0.740 V Voltage 0.000 V Voltage 15:12:53 Group 020 755 /min RPM 6.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.580 V Voltage 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:12:54 Group 018 0.0 km/h Speed 01 Bin. Bits 0.0 km/h Speed 0.0 km/h Speed 15:12:54 Group 019 0.740 V Voltage 0.000 V Voltage 15:12:54 Group 020 755 /min RPM 6.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.580 V Voltage 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:13:04 Group 021 600.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 495.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 4.8 % Duty Cycle 010 000 Bin. Bits 15:13:04 Group 022 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 4.8 °BTDC Ign. Timing 80.1 % Duty Cycle 0.0 km/h Speed 15:13:04 Group 020 775 /min RPM 5.8 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.560 V Voltage 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:13:30 Group 023 1152.6 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 27.1 % Duty Cycle 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 15:13:30 Group 024 13.5°C Temperature 8.1°C Temperature 20.7°C Temperature 255.0 (no units) 15:13:30 Group 025 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) And from warmish (it's currently parked up so difficult to get up to temperature.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:01 Group 000 038 108 000 026 096 198 123 114 119 137 15:35:01 Group 001 775 /min RPM 5.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.500 V Voltage 51.3°C Temperature 15:35:01 Group 002 796 /min RPM 0.0 % Load 0 1 0 Bin. Bits 51.3°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:08 Group 002 775 /min RPM 0.0 % Load 0 1 0 Bin. Bits 51.3°C Temperature 15:35:08 Group 003 775 /min RPM 660.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 445.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 24.7 % Duty Cycle 15:35:08 Group 004 775 /min RPM 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 5.3 °BTDC Ign. Timing 75.7 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:17 Group 005 775 /min RPM 30.8 mg/str Inj. Quantity 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 51.3°C Temperature 15:35:17 Group 006 0.0 km/h Speed 0 0 0 Bin. Bits 00000000 Bin. Bits 255.0 (no units) 15:35:17 Group 007 17.1°C Temperature 12.6°C Temperature 51.3°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:26 Group 008 755 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 25.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:35:26 Group 009 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 51.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:35:26 Group 010 465.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:33 Group 011 775 /min RPM 1142.4 mbar Absolute Pres. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.5 % Duty Cycle 15:35:33 Group 012 11111111 Bin. Bits 3.42 (no units) 13.91 V Voltage 50.4°C Temperature 15:35:33 Group 013 -0.19 mg/str Inj. Quantity -0.24 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.05 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.05 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:43 Group 014 0.12 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:35:43 Group 015 775 /min RPM 5.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.70 l/h Fuel Consump. 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 15:35:43 Group 016 99.6 % Load 00000000 Bin. Bits 00 Bin. Bits 13.91 V Voltage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:35:53 Group 017 15:35:53 Group 018 0.0 km/h Speed 01 Bin. Bits 0.0 km/h Speed 0.0 km/h Speed 15:35:53 Group 019 0.740 V Voltage 0.000 V Voltage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:36:04 Group 020 775 /min RPM 5.2 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.520 V Voltage 0.0 % Load 15:36:04 Group 021 655.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 445.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 24.7 % Duty Cycle 010 000 Bin. Bits 15:36:04 Group 022 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 4.8 °BTDC Ign. Timing 77.3 % Duty Cycle 0.0 km/h Speed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 15:36:14 Group 023 1142.4 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.1 % Duty Cycle 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 15:36:14 Group 024 17.1°C Temperature 12.6°C Temperature 48.6°C Temperature 255.0 (no units) 15:36:14 Group 025 Hope this is what you were after. |
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Posted: 27 Dec 20 at 21:00 |
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Thank you so much for that, really appreciate it. A quick look through some old (rough running) logs shows it @ idling around the 4.0 mg/str hot and cold. I'll get some fresh logs when I get a minute and post them up. |
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Posted: 28 Dec 20 at 16:35 |
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Yes it will be interesting to compare. I am wondering why your engine should suddenly start running lean without an obvious cause.
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Posted: 24 Feb 21 at 22:19 |
Sorry it's took so long, just not had a minute lately and also decided to pour a cup of tea over my laptop which killed it. I think the fuel quantity adjuster is playing up even though it checks out going by the specs. The only other way I think the fuel qauntity could change is if the top case of the diesel pump moved which is the 'hammer mod' method of adjusting fuel quantity, but the top is solid with no movement. When I get time I'll properly investigate it. COLDISH: Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:17:09 Group 000 038 105 000 039 095 198 172 110 115 146 08:17:09 Group 001 775 /min RPM 7.6 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.560 V Voltage 17.1°C Temperature 08:17:09 Group 002 775 /min RPM 0.0 % Load 0 1 0 Bin. Bits 17.1°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:17:27 Group 003 775 /min RPM 600.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 475.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 4.8 % Duty Cycle 08:17:27 Group 004 775 /min RPM 5.3 °BTDC Ign. Timing 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 78.9 % Duty Cycle 08:17:27 Group 005 775 /min RPM 30.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 5.5 °BTDC Ign. Timing 18.0°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:17:37 Group 006 0.0 km/h Speed 0 0 0 Bin. Bits 00000000 Bin. Bits 255.0 (no units) 08:17:37 Group 007 14.4°C Temperature 9.0°C Temperature 18.0°C Temperature 08:17:37 Group 008 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:17:47 Group 009 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 51.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 08:17:47 Group 010 470.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 0.0 % Load 08:17:47 Group 011 755 /min RPM 1173.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.9 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:17:56 Group 012 11111111 Bin. Bits 2.95 (no units) 14.44 V Voltage 18.9°C Temperature 08:17:56 Group 013 -0.14 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.54 mg/str Inj. Quantity -0.40 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.02 mg/str Inj. Quantity 08:17:56 Group 014 -0.02 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:18:09 Group 015 755 /min RPM 7.8 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.10 l/h Fuel Consump. 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 08:18:09 Group 016 99.6 % Load 00000000 Bin. Bits 00 Bin. Bits 14.44 V Voltage 08:18:09 Group 017 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:18:20 Group 018 0.0 km/h Speed 01 Bin. Bits 0.0 km/h Speed 0.0 km/h Speed 08:18:20 Group 019 0.720 V Voltage 4.460 V Voltage 08:18:20 Group 020 775 /min RPM 7.6 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.580 V Voltage 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:18:31 Group 021 600.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 485.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 4.8 % Duty Cycle 010 000 Bin. Bits 08:18:31 Group 022 5.3 °BTDC Ign. Timing 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 79.3 % Duty Cycle 0.0 km/h Speed 08:18:31 Group 023 1162.8 mbar Absolute Pres. 969.0 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.9 % Duty Cycle 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 08:18:41 Group 024 14.4°C Temperature 9.9°C Temperature 19.8°C Temperature 255.0 (no units) WARMISH: Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:38:48 Group 000 038 099 000 031 096 197 121 115 132 141 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:08 Group 001 775 /min RPM 6.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.540 V Voltage 52.2°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:13 Group 002 775 /min RPM 0.0 % Load 0 1 0 Bin. Bits 52.2°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:15 Group 003 775 /min RPM 705.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 470.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 24.7 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:19 Group 004 775 /min RPM 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 5.3 °BTDC Ign. Timing 71.3 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:22 Group 005 775 /min RPM 26.6 mg/str Inj. Quantity 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 53.1°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:26 Group 006 0.0 km/h Speed 0 0 0 Bin. Bits 00000000 Bin. Bits 255.0 (no units) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:29 Group 007 28.8°C Temperature 13.5°C Temperature 53.1°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:32 Group 008 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 26.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 25.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:36 Group 009 775 /min RPM 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity 51.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:38 Group 010 475.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:41 Group 011 775 /min RPM 1152.6 mbar Absolute Pres. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.1 % Duty Cycle -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:44 Group 012 11111111 Bin. Bits 0.00 (no units) 14.14 V Voltage 54.0°C Temperature -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:47 Group 013 -0.26 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.52 mg/str Inj. Quantity -0.12 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.09 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:51 Group 014 -0.19 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:55 Group 015 775 /min RPM 6.2 mg/str Inj. Quantity 0.90 l/h Fuel Consump. 0.0 mg/str Inj. Quantity -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:39:58 Group 016 99.6 % Load 00000000 Bin. Bits 00 Bin. Bits 14.14 V Voltage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:00 Group 017 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:05 Group 018 0.0 km/h Speed 01 Bin. Bits 0.0 km/h Speed 0.0 km/h Speed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:08 Group 019 0.720 V Voltage 4.460 V Voltage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:13 Group 020 775 /min RPM 6.4 mg/str Inj. Quantity 1.500 V Voltage 0.0 % Load -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:17 Group 021 700.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 455.0 mg/str Mass Air / Rev. 24.7 % Duty Cycle 010 000 Bin. Bits -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:21 Group 022 5.1 °BTDC Ign. Timing 4.8 °BTDC Ign. Timing 73.7 % Duty Cycle 0.0 km/h Speed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:24 Group 023 1152.6 mbar Absolute Pres. 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. 25.1 % Duty Cycle 979.2 mbar Absolute Pres. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:28 Group 024 29.7°C Temperature 13.5°C Temperature 54.9°C Temperature 255.0 (no units) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (074 906 018 BK) 19:40:34 Group 026 0387F5C1 |
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