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    Posted: 24 Nov 15 at 12:00
Hi All,

I've posted this in the LT2 Section as well but as its about the engine & technical thought I would ask the T4 experts if they've had similar problems. 

I have a power issue with a van we have recently bought, vw lt 2.5 tdi with 200k on it, it seems gutless on a hill and doesnt have the kick or punch my other vans have. On the flat seems okay.

It starts off the key straight away, its doesnt smoke and the turbo does kick in but its delayed. Foot flat to the floor constantly but it doesnt fly.

To date I have actioned the following:

Because I have 5 other vans (LT35/46) 2.5 tdi's I have actioned the following:

1. Swapped MAF/AFM & MAP (Put VAGCOM on cleared codes MAF came up, N75 valve, and injector 4 Needle fault and immobiliser fault ) Cleared codes none came back up so assume they were there before. Which confirms no wiring faults either.
2. Changed boost soleniod pack on bulk head (all of them)
3. Checked Vacuum Pipework to ensure nothing is fitted in the wrong place/wired wrong.
4. Changed Intercooler, checked pipework.
5. Rear Brakes stripped, handbrake mech was binding, calipers were sticking to fitted news pads (whoppie thought we had cracked it) better but still more or less the same. Did the test after a drive throw bucket of cold water on ALL wheels and no fizzle or steam as we orIginally got on the back nsr wheel. 
6. Changed Turbo better again but still delayed turbo response.
7. New to VAGCOM so not 100% sure how to check pump timing, but I've always done these by hand n the past with no problems.

I'm wondering if its a worn engine but being diesel you don't get the wear as you do with petrol engines. So hence the reason why I on here to ask you guys.

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Being that my knowledge is limited, you've already ticked off every single thing I would have looked at...hopefully someone else on here can help!
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Have you driven with MAF unplugged? No fault codes with no power points towards MAF. Was it an OE replacement unit?
If you have VCDS/VAGCOM you can also look at MAF - actual v specified.

All inlet tract ok? Turbo pipes etc all ok?

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No, as explained I have other 2.5 tdi vans with no problems, so i just simply swapped the parts over. 

No I have never driven without the MAF unplugged. It may have been disconnected at some stage by the previous owner, all I got out of him was as a last resort he has had injectors tested with no problems.
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Hi All,

Just an update, put VAGCOM on and re-checked timing all was ok. 

Butttttt the fuel temperature was up at 140 and VAGCOm was saying its too high. What would cause this ? 

The temperature gauge for the coolant was just below 110. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ob1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Nov 15 at 10:37
I reckon I'd be looking at the fuel filter? They have a recirculation valve when the engines cold i think? someone will know more than me?
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Maybe faulty fuel temp sensor in the top of the pump
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eddy Dar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Nov 15 at 11:30
Hi,

Yes put VAGCOM on and now it says ECT not warm enough ?? The Coolant gauge on the dash shows the needle is sitting around 8 pm which is around 85 degrees C

The fuel temperature is sitting around 143 

The van is frustratingly slow and hs no power up hill.

I'm going to change the fuel filter next see how that goes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikey Video Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Feb 16 at 21:24
Sorry I'm not writing with answers but I am suffering with the exact same issue in my recently bought van so I'm watching with interest.
One bit of advice I've had, not covered here is to check the Catalytic converter as this sometimes gets replaced with a bypass pipe, when it's changed back, crud in the cat blocks it.
I'm no mechanic but worth a look?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote vinylritchie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Apr 16 at 11:36
I'm also having exactly the same issues with my T4 2.5TDi.  I'm only just starting out with mine and don't yet have the mechanical know how.  But trying to build up my knowledge.  Let us know how you are getting on.

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Hi. Yeah, timing was way out vinylritchie. Running much better now. Intending to blank the EGR next which apparently has good results. Will let you know how I get on!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote vinylritchie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 16 at 22:14
How did you resolve your issue?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikey Video Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 16 at 10:59
Took my van to a local mechy recommended to me. Not much of a spanner monkey myself. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
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No problem.
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